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Hiroshima Plus 63 [Happy Hiroshima Day]
The Moderate Voice ^ | August 6, 2008 | PATRICK EDABURN

Posted on 08/06/2008 7:08:42 AM PDT by PurpleMan

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To: BlueLancer

Don’t you have to be somehow in the chain of command to be at risk? Not all of them were, I think.

Anyway, I said those are men who considered the act to be a war crime. I was asked for the names and provided them. Deal with it.


161 posted on 08/06/2008 3:07:52 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: section9

Your naivete is touching. I hope it won’t cost you too much.


162 posted on 08/06/2008 3:18:13 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Romulus
Then, I guess, you believe that it is against the laws of war to strike at factory centers, centers and lines of communication, supply depots and supply lines, or command and control centers if they are within the confines of a city and surrounded by "non-combatants".

If you do, then I guess we've pretty much covered all the bases here. I strongly disagree and believe that these are legitimate wartime targets.

However, if I have misunderstood you and you don't agree that these are protected targets, then at what level does it become a war crime and what level is a purely legal and military strike against national assets?

Surely, though, you're well-read enough to know that both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were centers of communication, supply, and command and control for numerous military field forces and naval units. I'm sure that you also know that the Japanese factory system relied on a multitude of small, widely scattered but numerous, family-level assembly points and factories, all contained within populated areas and lending themselves immune from any type of precision targeting.

Finally, even the present Geneva Convention recognizes that tactical and strategic targeting of civilians is sometimes unavoidable ...

4th Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, Part 3, Article 1, Section 28:

"The presence of a protected person (aka civilian noncombatant) may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."

163 posted on 08/06/2008 3:22:24 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Teach the children quietly, for someday sons and daughters will rise up & fight while we stood still)
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To: Oldsailor

Thank you for your service.


164 posted on 08/06/2008 3:24:09 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: BlueLancer
This issue of Military Law Review may be interesting to you. Start reading on page 93.
165 posted on 08/06/2008 3:36:31 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: BerkeleyRefugee

“Japan was already on the verge of surrender. The bombs
did not save lives and were a crime against humanity...”


Sorry, in reading the whole thread it is taking a bit of time
for me to catch up, but I just wanted to let you know that
I think you have reached your maximum storage capacity of feces.


166 posted on 08/06/2008 3:42:43 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: BerkeleyRefugee

Read about the Bataan Death march and any pity toward those that died in the justified nuclear bombings will disappear.

If it doesn’t then you ain’t an American.


167 posted on 08/06/2008 3:50:14 PM PDT by Eaker (I'm voting for McCain because he is white.)
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To: Eaker
Read about the Bataan Death march and any pity toward those that died in the justified nuclear bombings will disappear.

Even moreso if you read about "Unit 731".

168 posted on 08/06/2008 3:52:24 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: Captain Kirk
Killing babies was not necessary.

At least the Allies didn't rape them first like the Japanese soldiers.

Quit white-washing history.

169 posted on 08/06/2008 3:54:16 PM PDT by Eaker (I'm voting for McCain because he is white.)
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To: Eaker

As far as the babies that were killed, their blood was on the hands of Tojo and Company.


170 posted on 08/06/2008 3:56:59 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: dfwgator

That is indeed another fine example.


171 posted on 08/06/2008 3:57:19 PM PDT by Eaker (I'm voting for McCain because he is white.)
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To: Captain Kirk

“An invasion would not have occured if we had let the Japanese know that they could kill the emperor.”
- - -
Oh, Captain, give me a break, please.
So someone had to tell them this?
I am saddened, because I thought you were smarter than that.
Now I think that you too may also have reached
your maximum storage capacity of feces.
Star date: August 6th 1945
The scientists said,
“We have a weapon that will end this nasty war post haste.”
President Truman said, “Make it so.”
Colonel Tibbetts said, “Aye, Captain.”
And it was the right thing to do.


172 posted on 08/06/2008 4:00:44 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: Romulus
Citations, quotes, and sources please.

L

173 posted on 08/06/2008 4:20:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Romulus
There is no difference. Both are examples of terror bombing with minimal military objectives.

What makes you expert on this matter?

174 posted on 08/06/2008 4:50:25 PM PDT by Oldsailor
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To: Oldsailor

“What makes you expert on this matter?”
- - -
Sic ‘em sea dog, I got yer back.


175 posted on 08/06/2008 4:53:20 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: PurpleMan

Happy Hiroshima Day! One of the finest hours in the history of the USA and its military forces.


176 posted on 08/06/2008 4:55:25 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: PurpleMan
You all are plainly missing the importance of this date.

On August 6th, 1945, the Naval Air Forces of a still-mighty power (Imperial Japan) dropped bombs on, and sunk, the USS Bullhead (SS-332), the last U.S. Navy submarine lost in combat, off the coast of Bali (in present-day Indonesia.)

In less important news, another bomb of some sort was dropped on Hiroshima.

(Full disclosure)At the same time, a certain, very tough, 20-year-old paratrooper - the headquarters-platoon explosives expert - was crawling through tunnels to to blast out the remaining resiting Japanese troops on Negros in the Philipines.

His Regiment, the 503rd, was slated to have to jump on Yokohama, where he almost certainly would have been killed.

This was the tough old bastard whom I had to convince and woo to let me marry his daughter, the fourth of his eight kids - whom he nicknamed "Favorite."

Without that bomb, I wouldn't have the love of my life and the mother of my children.

Thank God for nuclear fission.

177 posted on 08/06/2008 5:00:13 PM PDT by Castlebar
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To: PurpleMan
“...FRD’s oil embargo on Japan was the first act of war.”

The fact that Japan had already invaded and raped the poo out of Manchuria in the 1930’s might suggest that Japan was at war a decade before they decided to launch a sneak attack on the United States.

178 posted on 08/06/2008 6:43:32 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: Romulus
Both are examples of terror bombing with minimal military objectives.

Another example, combined with the rest of the nonsense you've posted, of how little you know about the topic.

179 posted on 08/06/2008 8:24:31 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: PurpleMan
Eyewitness account of  Fr. Johannes Siemes
The Atomic Bombing of Hiroshima (Click link)
Unpublished for more than 50 years.
 
Excerpt
American pilots taken prisoner during recent attacks against the Japanese Fleet anchored at Kure were being held in Hiroshima at the time of the bombing. After the bombing at least one crewman, whose last name was Brisette, was tied to a tree and stoned to death by a crowd of vengeful civilians. Several others were tied down and left for civilians to beat upon with iron rods while they starved. Having said that, a private Japanese donor living in the Hiroshima area later paid for the building of monuments to American prisoners lost during and immediately after the bombing. The monuments are still well maintained, and placed as close as possible to where each American died.

180 posted on 08/06/2008 9:56:58 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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