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Hiroshima Plus 63 [Happy Hiroshima Day]
The Moderate Voice ^ | August 6, 2008 | PATRICK EDABURN

Posted on 08/06/2008 7:08:42 AM PDT by PurpleMan

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To: Romulus
...a dishonor to this country ...

Yeah, right ... it would have been far more honorable to kill a million Americans and 30 million Japanese.

121 posted on 08/06/2008 1:55:36 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Romulus
A war crime it was and remains -

Then by all means do try and bring some charges.

Let me know how that works out for you.

L

122 posted on 08/06/2008 1:55:50 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Romulus
A war crime it was and remains

Your original assertion was that 'many' US Military officers considered it a war crime to drop the atomic bombs. I challenged you to name two of those Officers.

You haven't done it.

All you've done is repeat your opinion that it was.

The fact is if ANY US Military Officer felt that dropping those weapons was a War Crime they would have been duty bound to immediately report it as such up their chain of command or, if they were Flag Officers, order arrests themselves. If they were ordered to commit what they felt was a War Crime, they're duty bound to resign their commission immediately.

Further, they would have been duty bound to do everything in their power to see that the action they felt were criminal be stopped before they could be carried out or repeated.

Since none of these things happened, your original assertion is therefore untrue.

So unless you can come up with cited quotations of these US Military officers, you're perpetuating a lie.

L

123 posted on 08/06/2008 2:06:30 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Decent people have no use for the sort of “honor” that consists of dishonest appeals to justify evil acts.

PS: I hope those cites were enough for you.


124 posted on 08/06/2008 2:09:03 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Lurker

The Nazis and Japs wanted ‘Total War’ and they got it.


125 posted on 08/06/2008 2:11:08 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: Romulus
Your handle, Romulus after one of the most bloodthirsty and immoral Empires the world has ever seen, is quite dichotomous with your sensitivity to civilian war dead.

I trust you're equally disgusted with the Japanese military and their hideous murders of tens of thousands of civilians all over the Pacific just for the sheer sport of it.

Oh and the biological warfare experiments, live dissections of POW's, and on and on and on...

126 posted on 08/06/2008 2:16:09 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Romulus
So you would have been content with continued fire- and carpet-bombing of the Japanese Islands, followed by a multi-month bloodbath invasion ...

That certainly sounds honorable. /sarc

127 posted on 08/06/2008 2:16:34 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Teach the children quietly, for someday sons and daughters will rise up & fight while we stood still)
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To: Lurker
they would have been duty bound

Yeah, right. So sad that "duty bound" stuff doesn't happen all the time. So sad to have to inform you of this.

I more than fulfilled your demand; you just don't like it. Tough.

128 posted on 08/06/2008 2:19:25 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Lurker; BlueLancer

Getting personal and changing the subject only expose the weakness of your special pleading.


129 posted on 08/06/2008 2:22:32 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Romulus
I more than fulfilled your demand

I didn't see a single name in your post, let alone two.

L

130 posted on 08/06/2008 2:22:50 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Romulus
Decent people have no use for the sort of “honor” that consists of dishonest appeals to justify evil acts.

What the heck are you talking about?

P. S. I didn't see a lot of references to war crimes in the cites you gave.

131 posted on 08/06/2008 2:26:06 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Romulus
"So you would have been content with continued fire- and carpet-bombing of the Japanese Islands, followed by a multi-month bloodbath invasion ...

"Getting personal and changing the subject only expose the weakness of your special pleading."

I don't see how my question was changing the subject by any degree. It was basically a two-choice set: either continue doing what we had been doing .. the carpet- and fire-bombing which would have eventually had to be followed by an invasion .. or dropping the nukes.

None of the individuals that you've referred to would have agreed to walking away and leaving the Japanese alone, nor simply blockading them. So it becomes a "one or the other" choice.

You are entitled to your feelings, but the hard evidence and intelligence estimates point to far fewer casualties inflicted and received by the dropping of the nukes.

132 posted on 08/06/2008 2:29:57 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Teach the children quietly, for someday sons and daughters will rise up & fight while we stood still)
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To: PurpleMan

Every time I’m tempted to feel guilty about the nuking of Japan, I think of Nanking, and that pretty well takes care of it.


133 posted on 08/06/2008 2:31:59 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Romulus

Additionally, almost right up the minute that the Emperor ordered the surrender, factions of the Japanese military was involved in what was essentially a coup to gain control of the person of the Emperor and prevent him from announcing the surrender. So, it doesn’t sound to me like the Japanese hierarchy or military high command considred themselves “on the ropes” by any stretch of the imagination.


134 posted on 08/06/2008 2:32:58 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Teach the children quietly, for someday sons and daughters will rise up & fight while we stood still)
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To: Lurker

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.


135 posted on 08/06/2008 2:33:45 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: BlueLancer

I wasn’t arguing about history, but about law.


136 posted on 08/06/2008 2:34:50 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: Romulus
And none are so morally crippled as those who make a charge they can't back up.

L

137 posted on 08/06/2008 2:35:32 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Romulus

What law of war forbade the use of nuclear weapons?


138 posted on 08/06/2008 2:36:55 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Teach the children quietly, for someday sons and daughters will rise up & fight while we stood still)
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To: Lurker
One tin god worshiping, bloodthirsty, pesky, parasitic society + two mushroom clouds = a benevolent, productive, well behaved country.

Biggest favor one country ever did for another, and after that treacherous, sneak attack, too.

America is good!

139 posted on 08/06/2008 2:39:16 PM PDT by BikerTrash
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To: Lurker

You need reading lessons, friend. And the moral courage to admit when you’re wrong.


140 posted on 08/06/2008 2:40:10 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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