Posted on 07/30/2008 5:21:36 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast
“I wouldn’t say MOST.
I’ve encountered only one who was a real....”
Well, people don’t get to choose what kind of officer investigates them. 99% may be all American heroes, but the guy who knocks on your door may be the one that is despised and mocked by the rest of the force for his stupidity and ethical problems. He may decide your guilt based on the most ridiculous evidence and sell a prosecutor on it. Then if he doesn’t have enough evidence to convict, he will seek enough evidence to convict of a lesser contrived crime.
Its sad, but it happens.
That is an EXCELLENT video to watch.
If you are under suspicion, rule number one is do NOT talk to the police.
Thanks, I didn’t even realize that was a video.
“My son is a cop”
I knew there was a reason I liked you. :>)
let’s not get to wound up here.
Even the guy speaking appeared to be making the ‘worst case scenario’ argument.
There is no logical connection between the Founding Fathers and AQ or MS13 based upon anything I said.
But denying cooperation to law enforcement is not a zero sum game. You would at least agree with me on that, wouldn’t you? (include all the caveats you want, I have my own as well). There are lots of LEO on FR who aren’t evil bastards just waiting to use our words and actions against us to fill a quota.
“There are lots of LEO on FR who aren’t evil bastards just waiting to use our words and actions against us to fill a quota.
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Maybe not, but none of them are perfect, and if you watched the video then you also understand why that is a risk as well.
NEVER talk to the police if you are the suspect.
Thanks—the two videos were quite an education.
Pingy for Later...
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Gee, when I see a law enforcement officer, (or active duty military or just somebody who might be a veteran), I walk right up to them and thank them for their service, as I do now to all here. Thank you. Yea, I know that’s not what the subject of the thread was about, but just had to throw it in.
More to the point, though, even when the police have the very best intentions, I don't assume that the DA does, as the Duke case showed. It is the police who first interview the person who then becomes the suspect that the DA prosecutes.
And even assuming that the DA is totally upright and honest, the entire system is run by humans who are prone to making mistakes.
The right to counsel is a right everyone should exercise. The police don't want to have the wrong suspect. Talking to them when upset or nervous may give them one.
Exercising the right to counsel benefits everyone, including the police. How can it be argued otherwise?
I've pleaded my constituitional right in court and the case against me went away. (I wasn't wrong)
I had a similar situation where a lady ran a red light and totalled my truck. Fortunately, the person in front of me stopped, came back, and gave witness to what happened. God bless him a ton.
IMO, There are times where it is necessary to talk to the police, if you’re going to be a good citizen and neighbor. But like the man said, we’re free. But to be an @$$hole and watch people get hurt or screwed by lawbreakers and do nothing about it? No, not when I’m witness to it.
“Interesting you should say that sir, because we’re actually looking for a very dangerous cop-killer who just shot and killed one of our brethren and you can only imagine how anxious we are to find that scumball. And the reason I say interesting, is because he had walked up to the slain officer right before he shot him, and had thanked him for his service. In fact the fellow was about your heighth and weight and..............”
My nightmare 30 day no bail lockup ia exactly 20 years ago, and I still regret “co-operating”. Questions as innocent as “Do you read the newspaper?” can and will be used against you. I said yes, but supposing I’d said no. What kind of person never reads the newspapers? And because I said yes, it was used against me, because part of their paranoid scenario involved the perp having read something in the newspaper.
When the hysteria died down I was released, and it was only the much maligned ninth circuit that unanimously ruled I had been arrested without probable cause, allowing me to collect a pittance for my permanent injuries.
bmflr
some of these leo threads get kinda heated
Whoa! Sounds like you’ve got a story. I’d love to hear it.
To all-this is mandatory viewing, even if you are a criminal lawyer.
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