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The Price of RomneyCare
The Wall Street Journal ^ | July 29, 2008 | Unattributed

Posted on 07/28/2008 11:06:24 PM PDT by gpapa

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To: fieldmarshaldj
Although you might be right about Rappaport, Romney
still kept the Lt.Gov Healey in the background
where (as some FReepers have noted in other threads) he
thought women should remain. Corroborating their
hypothesis, Romney did not support Healey until the day
before (and day after) the election.

In Rappaport's own words:

"In 2006, while Romney was chairman of the National Republican
Governors Association - a group dedicated to electing more
Republican governors - his own hand-picked Republican successor
as governor lost badly to the Democrat, despite the fact that Republicans
have held the governorship in Massachusetts since 1990. Romney largely
ignored the Massachusetts elections and spent most of the time
during the campaign out of state building his presidential campaign.
He came back and publicly campaigned for the Republican candidate
the day before the general election!
“Locally, this is a rebuke to Mitt Romney and checking out within six months
after being elected and having accomplished almost nothing,”
[Jim] Rappaport [former chairman of the state Republican Party]."

- Boston Globe, 11/8/2006


“The Massachusetts Republican Party died last Tuesday.
The cause of death: failed leadership.
The party is survived by a few leftover legislators
and a handful of county officials and grassroots activists
who have been ignored for years.
Services will be public and a mass exodus of taxpayers will follow.
In lieu of flowers, send messages to New Hampshire Republican voters
warning them about a certain presidential candidate named Romney.”

- Boston Herald, 11/12/2006

41 posted on 07/29/2008 5:29:53 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Tennessee Nana
RomneyCARE is a fascist, socialist plan installed by Romney, created by Romney, and forced on the people without a vote ... by Romney.

There you go again, using facts against the romney worshipers. You are sooooo bigoted when you do that.

42 posted on 07/29/2008 5:42:55 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Ich bin ein Berloser - Barak Hussein Mohammed Obama)
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To: Graybeard58

Hailed at first as a new national model, the Massachusetts nonmiracle ought to be a warning to Washington. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are both proposing versions of RomneyCare on a national scale …..

So let me get this straight: Establishment Republicans, prominent talk-radio types and many pundits, some of whom made their careers opposing HillaryCare in 1994, are feverishly (pun intended) lobbying John McCain, who says that “Families should be in charge of their health care dollars and have more control over care,” to choose as his running mate the guy who created a government-controlled healthcare disaster. Because, “obviously” (/sarc), he’s an “economic conservative.”

Nonsense. Any advantage John McCain might have as the guy who won’t foist HillaryCare/ObamaCare 2008 on us evaporates. Though he may try (and he has), Mitt Romney cannot renounce his handiwork.
http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/07/25/the-case-against-mitt-romney-collection-072508/


43 posted on 07/29/2008 5:46:44 AM PDT by anglian
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To: anglian

A different issue to be sure but romney has also been pro abortion all his adult life, having gotten his start on that murderous path from his mother, Elanore.

He became pro life when he decided that he wanted to win some republican primaries.

I will reluctantly vote for John McCain but mitt romney on the ticket will push me right over the edge. I refuse to vote for a ticket with, not one but two damn’d liberals on it.


44 posted on 07/29/2008 5:57:30 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Ich bin ein Berloser - Barak Hussein Mohammed Obama)
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To: Jim Robinson
But, But, but Jim, you are so wrong, Mitt is the greatest conservative in the world, Has been for 18-24 months now, he even says so!

The Heritage Foundation helped design the plan, so it is very conservative!

Great Conservative icons like Hilary Clinton, James Carville and John Kerry have ENDORSED the plan.

Um...

Hum...

Wait a minute...

45 posted on 07/29/2008 6:14:15 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: Terpfen
If he did not like it, why did he implement it?
46 posted on 07/29/2008 6:15:26 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: pissant
Massachusetts was going to get “universal health care” regardless of what Mitt Romney did. Here's the scoreboard in the Massachusetts Legislature in case you didn't know.
House of Representatives: 130 Dem. 19 Rep.
State Senate: 35 Dem. 5 Rep.
The Republicans don't even have sufficient numbers to demand a roll call vote.
The real power in Mass is the Speaker of the House, not the Governor.
47 posted on 07/29/2008 6:16:15 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Deport them all... Let God sort them out!)
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To: nmh

You ARE kidding right...

Just forgot the /s tag...


48 posted on 07/29/2008 6:16:51 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Yes, but you see that was 6 months ago, and like dog years, that is a life time ago in Mitt Romney’s political life...


49 posted on 07/29/2008 6:17:59 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

RomneyCare is health care mandated, subsidized and controlled by the government and the first step towards socialized medicine. Forcing people to purchase a service against their will is called tyranny. Subsidizing the premiums for those who can’t afford it, is called socialism.


50 posted on 07/29/2008 6:41:31 AM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: ejonesie22

No, I’m not kidding you.

I take it your an Obomination supporter?


51 posted on 07/29/2008 7:09:11 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

No, I am a conservative and one who deals with facts...


52 posted on 07/29/2008 7:12:16 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: flaglady47; ejonesie22
It is stunning to read and see how people are clueless and run away from facts and claim to be “conservatives”. One thing is for sure with me, I will NEVER, EVER allow the label of an “Evangelical” - they are a disgrace! ALL OF THEM.

Here is what Mitt Romney himself had to say in an Opinion article he wrote just a week or two ago. He says some fine tuning is needed, and the MA state legislature passed some additional parts to the plan that Romney didn’t like, but he was no longer Gov of MA and couldn’t do anything about it (Duval Patrick, a total leftist became Gov of MA). Here is what Romney said (again just recently):

OPINION

“What We’ve Learned From the Massachusetts Health Plan
By MITT ROMNEY
July 12, 2008

It may come as a surprise to some on the left, but it is the Bush administration that made the state of Massachusetts’ health-care revolution a reality.

Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt, together with Massachusetts leaders from both parties, enabled our state to launch a health-care plan that is on track to get virtually every citizen insured. Moreover, Bay Staters are now able to own their own insurance with the same low rates that are paid by employers. And there is no more worrying that if you lose your job, you lose your health insurance.

The Bush administration will decide in the coming days whether to continue to facilitate this experiment by accepting the state’s financial contribution as qualifying for federal matching funds as in the past. If the federal government refuses or reduces federal participation, the state could be forced to curtail the program.

The plan has critics as well as proponents; I hope both can agree that what we are learning is invaluable. Here’s how I see it:

There is a misconception in this country that individuals who do not have health insurance also do not receive health care. But in fact, people without health insurance regularly show up at emergency rooms — and by federal law, they are treated, usually at no cost to them. The cost is picked up by everyone else, and by government.

Our plan said no to “free-riders.” Massachusetts residents are now required to have health insurance. For those earning less than 300% of the federal poverty level, there is a subsidized insurance program called Commonwealth Care. Individuals pay a share of their monthly premium, based upon their income level. This is private insurance, chosen by the individual. It is not Medicaid or Medicare.

For those earning over 300% of the federal poverty level, we created a “Connector” to enable individuals to purchase private insurance at lower rates, and with pretax dollars.

Already, the number of uninsured has been cut by 340,000 — more than half. Some have signed up for Commonwealth Care, some have purchased insurance through the Connector, and some have purchased insurance through their employer. In fact, ours is the only state in the nation where the number of people purchasing through their employer has actually risen. Within two years, nearly every Massachusetts citizen will have health insurance.

The subsidized Commonwealth Care program accounts for about two-thirds of the new enrollments to date. This is as expected: We initiated this subsidized program well ahead of the unsubsidized program, and the incentives to purchase the unsubsidized insurance have only recently begun kicking in.

Hundreds of thousands of people are receiving better health care, including preventive care and treatment for chronic ailments. These people will be far less likely to suffer acute — and expensive — conditions in the future.

When fully implemented, almost everyone who is not on a federal entitlement program will be paying for all or a portion of their health-insurance cost. We have tackled the free-rider problem.

The cost and value of health insurance for individuals who purchase their own insurance has improved markedly. Before our plan, a healthy 37 year old (the median age of our insured population) paid $355 a month for insurance. Now, the Connector reports that that same individual can purchase insurance at just over half the cost and with double the benefits.

The cost of the insurance policies that are offered through the Connector is actually less than what was originally forecast. Market forces are beginning to go to work in health care.

Still, there are corrections that are needed. The Massachusetts plan is more costly than it needs to be. Critics overstate the cost problem by ignoring the hundreds of millions it saves by replacing prior programs for the uninsured. Even so, mid-course corrections can significantly lower cost and improve the program. Here are a few:

- Require everyone to pay something. My plan did just that, but the state legislature decided that the poor (those earning at or below the federal poverty level) should pay nothing. If people get something for free, they don’t value it and they overuse it. Further, the individual’s share of the Commonwealth Care premium must be regularly adjusted for both fairness and budget.

- Remove coverage mandates. Mandates such as unlimited in vitro fertilization drive up the cost to the state and to the individual. In an abundance of caution, the legislature voted to keep all mandates in place even as it put a moratorium on any new mandates. Now that the plan is working, the governor and the legislature should revisit this issue.

- Phase out direct payments. We must follow through on the agreement to end direct state payments to the hospitals that care primarily for low-income patients. The legislation calls for the last payment of $160 million to be paid in 2009. Stick to this phaseout, as agreed.

- Strict enforcement. Tighten the requirements for the free care that is still being provided by hospitals, and follow up with strict enforcement. Hospitals have grown accustomed to these dollars and will resist giving them up. Large opaque payments to hospitals must be replaced by the subsidy that is given to individuals who purchase their own insurance.

- Cost containment. Vigorously promote the cost containment features that were contemplated in the original legislation, including cost and quality transparency among providers and co-insurance options for purchasers.

Health-care reform is working in Massachusetts. The people of the state, having the closest view of the plan, are the most positive: A recent poll shows favorable opinions outnumber unfavorable by three to one.

The left argues that to get everyone insured, the federal government must take over health care. Leaders from both parties in Massachusetts and the Bush administration have proven them wrong — this will be one of their signature achievements. It would be a mistake to walk away from it now.”

Mr. Romney is the former governor of Massachusetts.


Thanks

53 posted on 07/29/2008 7:12:40 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ejonesie22

“No, I am a conservative and one who deals with facts...”

YOU, a “conservative”?

LOL!

Only in your dreams.


54 posted on 07/29/2008 7:13:39 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
This coming from a Romney supporter? Are you serious?

Unless you forgot your /s tag, I take that as high praise and an endorsement of my Conservative credentials...

55 posted on 07/29/2008 7:18:17 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: nmh
A couple of things, one I have no idea why you bring up anything about evangelicals, but dising them shows exactly how "Conservative" you are Anyways, the second bit, and this is the real funny part, because it shows how off you Mitt folks really are.

In this article Mitt says it needs fine tuning, and has a few things he does not like, yet the original post, the one where you agree with your fellow Mittster says:

And I quote:

So Romney is off the political stage but still set to be tarred and feathered for a program he expressly did not like and did not intend to bring with him on the national stage?

I mean come on, do you really think "a few things he does not like and some fine tuning" is the same as "expressly not liking" the entire program? Hell it was HIS PLAN, and you have fellow Mittsters trying to convince us how "Conservative" it is.

You guys need to get back to the training manual...

And don't get me started on "he is off the political stage and not wanting the plan to go national...

You talk about factually challenged!?!

Damn, just damn, it is like the twilight zone with you guys....

56 posted on 07/29/2008 7:29:09 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: nmh
Ok, come on, it doesn't take that long to reference the "Mitt Romney for President Vice President Campaign Manual for Professional Bloggers".

Check the Volume entitiled "Trying to Sell Mitt the Wonderful as a Conservative Despite His Record", look in chapter 6, "What to do when they are on to us"...

57 posted on 07/29/2008 8:05:16 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: nmh
Ok, come on, it doesn't take that long to reference the "Mitt Romney for President Vice President Campaign Manual for Professional Bloggers".

Check the Volume entitiled "Trying to Sell Mitt the Wonderful as a Conservative Despite His Record", look in chapter 6, "What to do when they are on to us"...

58 posted on 07/29/2008 8:05:26 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: ejonesie22

Someone hates Evangelicals placemark.


59 posted on 07/29/2008 8:10:16 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Eighteen new "I love Romney" threads in the past week,.and counting! Flacking for VP or love-god?)
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To: greyfoxx39
Someone is thumbing through the campaign manual on what to do place mark...
60 posted on 07/29/2008 8:12:29 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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