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BBC: Plane hole 'not due to corrosion' (says Qantas boss Geoff Dixon )
BBC ^ | Saturday, 26 July 2008 11:04 UK 10:04 GMT, | BBC Staff

Posted on 07/26/2008 1:30:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 07/26/2008 1:30:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ya think?


2 posted on 07/26/2008 1:32:45 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’d be really pissed if I was on that plane and they lost my luggage. Also, nothing is perfect, stuff breaks.


3 posted on 07/26/2008 1:33:08 PM PDT by Liberty 275 (Do. Not. Want. Barack. Obama.)
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To: null and void; RadioCirca1970; RightWhale; Bahbah; kms61; nw_arizona_granny

fyi


4 posted on 07/26/2008 1:35:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A former head of the NTSB was on the tube last night and said that any aircraft that's used on over-the-water routes (as this one was) is very susceptible to corrosion and must be checked carefully...and often.
5 posted on 07/26/2008 1:37:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bein ein beginner")
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Dr David Newman, of Flight Medicine Systems, said forcing the plane into a rapid descent after a sudden loss of pressure was a standard emergency procedure.


Finally, an expert not being an alarmist...:^)

6 posted on 07/26/2008 1:39:50 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I normally chuckle at aviation experts due to my background, but someone got it right...I guess even blind squirrels can find the occasional nut...


7 posted on 07/26/2008 1:45:13 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Our preliminary checks on this indicate there was no corrosion anywhere near where this hole occurred in the aircraft," he told ABC news in Australia.

What about the large piece of skin that is in the middle of the ocean. Any chance that has the corrosion evidence?

8 posted on 07/26/2008 1:48:10 PM PDT by 386wt (Be free and don't die!)
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Yeah. Yesterday's article had it plunging 20,000 ft.

I hope the pilot makes an announcement that it is a controlled descent into thicker air or something to that effect before all the passengers wet themselves.

Not that I would, of course...

9 posted on 07/26/2008 1:48:41 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void

Exactly.

It’s the pilot’s job to get the aircraft to a breathable atmosphere in a depressurized state. Thus, about 9000’ ASL — the 20,000’ “plunge”.

I guess the well-informed and curious reporter would have preferred the passengers endure a normal descent ... and the hypoxia and cold air.

One reason the ‘experts’ might be able to rule out corrosion so quickly is that the part in question just might be fibreglass. I’ve yet to see fibreglass “corrode” on an aircraft even those used on over-water routes. Crack and fail yes. But NOT corrode. (harrumph)

The writer of this article is to me a sensationalist and definitely NOT an aircraft ‘expert’. To have relied on plane spotter forums for reports of corrosion is laughable.

When sane minds prevail, I bet the discussion will record that the flight did escape real danger by not ingesting said loose part into the right inboard engine.

I personally doubt the plane suffered ANY loss of structural integrity— it lost part of its skin, not skeleton.


10 posted on 07/26/2008 2:03:24 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: 386wt

No, when you get a failure, it “grows” from the failure point along the lines of most stress and highest weakness. IF corrosion was the problem, there would be fairly obvious signs of it, as well as relatively simple clues to where the structural failure began. . .


11 posted on 07/26/2008 2:09:10 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Was this an event that happened in the luggage compartment?


12 posted on 07/26/2008 2:16:27 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What I am eager to learn is how Global Warming caused this serious malfunction.


13 posted on 07/26/2008 2:18:17 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Had this been a US carrier the lawsuits for emotional distress would have already been filed.


14 posted on 07/26/2008 2:18:34 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They don’t even want to consider the “T” word , do they?


15 posted on 07/26/2008 2:19:52 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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The Australian Transport Safety Bureau said the aircraft made an emergency descent from 29,000ft to 10,000ft before stabilising. It said initial information indicated that a section of the fuselage had separated in the area of the forward cargo compartment.

Guess so.

16 posted on 07/26/2008 2:27:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It was a plane fart, that’s all.


17 posted on 07/26/2008 2:51:12 PM PDT by papasmurf (This space left blank intentionly.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A plane I was on late last night got smacked hard by someone on the ground crew driving the loading ramp into it. I was getting off the plane, but if I had been flying on that aircraft this morning, I would hope it had been inspected thoroughly. Small cracks can lead to whole panels departing the aircraft prematurely.


18 posted on 07/26/2008 3:16:24 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am not familiar with that particular airframe. But with a 17 year commercial a/c it could have some fatigue in that area of the skin, where the rivets join to the spars. Also in that area of the a/c skin there is some hardened stress points, that might not have been closely observed thru the use of n.d.i. inspection equipment. One way to make sure is to closely inspect same model and year, of same type a/c and look with n.d.i. non destructive inspection equipment, like x ray, or using i.r. infra red photography. You would think thru a Class C or D phased inspection, they would have located any type of stress cracks if in the past, that was a known area for stress fractures.


19 posted on 07/26/2008 3:24:16 PM PDT by ibtheman
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They don’t even want to consider the “T” word , do they?

It's probably a bad sign. Usually they make an immediate announcement that terrorism has nothing to do with the potential terrorist incident. Here I've seen no mention.
20 posted on 07/26/2008 3:35:50 PM PDT by jjw
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