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A Savage Attack: Why Michael Savage is wrong about Autism & why Conservatives shouldn't support him.
National Review ^ | July 24, 2008 | John J. Pitney Jr.

Posted on 07/26/2008 12:06:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Checkers
The Bookstore banned him? Good for them.

Duh! Banning and burning books is Nazi-like, get your head out of Media Matters a$$ and read your history.........

361 posted on 08/28/2008 5:56:59 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth; camerakid400; lormand
"You’re not the first either, but these ‘useful idiots’ suffer from selective hearing and hatred just like their kissin’ cousins, the faggot run Media Matters."


362 posted on 08/28/2008 5:57:29 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: whatisthetruth; lormand

“Duh! Banning and burning books is Nazi-like, get your head out of Media Matters a$$ and read your history.........”

The bookstore is a private buisness. If they wish to ban certain individuals from their premises, I say “right on”.

Who is burning Weiner’s worthless books?


363 posted on 08/28/2008 6:01:14 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: Checkers
Who is burning Weiner’s worthless books?

I see, so how many books have you published?

364 posted on 08/28/2008 6:08:36 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth; lormand

Thank you for admitting that no one is “burning” Weiner’s silly tomes.


365 posted on 08/28/2008 6:17:42 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: Checkers

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2062188/posts?q=1&;page=51#55


366 posted on 08/28/2008 6:24:56 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: camerakid400; lormand

From your post found at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2062188/posts?q=1&;page=51#55 :

“Okay, so lets all support CAIR since Michael Savage is such a bad guy.!!

By the way, most of the things you listed are either false, out of context, or just plain stupid.
Just one example: Media Matters has audio clips of Savage in 2006 attacking the Israelis for not attacking Lebanon hard enough-that item on you list is false.”


1.The List is correct, but it is the Weiner M.O. to say the exact opposite thing minutes later.

2. Am I to understand that Media Matters is now the authority on Weiner?

3. You have failed to show that anything on the List is false, or out of context.

4. To be sure, Weiner says many stupid things, I’ll give you that.


367 posted on 08/28/2008 7:13:15 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Are there any FReepers who fail to understand how much of an embarrassment to the cause is the personage of Michael “Savage?”


368 posted on 08/28/2008 7:16:17 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: unspun; lormand

“Are there any FReepers who fail to understand how much of an embarrassment to the cause is the personage of Michael “Savage?””

There are a few.


369 posted on 08/28/2008 7:20:57 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: Checkers
You dont have any evidence or context. I have a transcript.

SAVAGE: They're [Israel] going to lose, it's as simple as that. The same way we're losing in Iraq, they're going to lose in Lebanon, in the big picture now. I don't mean in the short term. In the long term, the only thing that can make a difference is a devastating, catastrophic, overwhelming victory for the Israelis, where nothing is left living in southern Lebanon, south of the Litani River. [...] SAVAGE: I have nothing more to say on the issue. Either Israel wants to live, and Israel frees itself of the Holocaust mentality -- and Israel frees itself of the men who are acting as though they are still hiding in the sewers of Warsaw instead of walking in the clear light of Tel Aviv. And if they want to act like Holocaust Jews hiding in the sewer, I cannot change the psyche of the leadership of Israel. I can't do it. If they want to act like sabras who were born in the Mediterranean and belong there and are willing to fight for it and use all the power they have and crush the bastards and get it over with, right to the Litani River, well so be it. But they're not willing to do that, therefore they're going to lose. So, I have nothing more to say about it. Don't you understand? And therefore, in the long run, the sands of the Middle East will sweep over the Jewish state, and it will disappear, within not your lifetime, perhaps, but eventually the sands will re-conquer what the Israelis built out of the sands -- out of the desert sands. And once again the Arabs will be happy as they go back to their nomadic ways of cutting each other's throat. http://mediamatters.org/items/200607310004?f=s_search

Since you have no transcript and no context for your assertion that Savage is "Cindy Sheehan" on Israel, I will have to conclude that you are either lying, or being very misleading with this assertion. I have listened to Savage for 2 years and he is always very hawkish on Israel.

Spews hatred and vile towards our Commander in Chief during a time of war

So nobody is allowed to criticise the president b/c we are at war? Every conservative must support Bush? We don't live in a fascist state. Savage can sat whatever the heck he wants about Bush.

On April 17, 2007, at approximately 45 minutes into the 1st hour of his show, Weiner said the shooting (at Virginia Tech) indicates our Gun laws are too lax.

Completely out of context. I heard the shows during the VA tech shooting. He doesn't want the mentally ill to own guns, but said if some students had them, the shooter would have been stopped sooner.

During the first 30 minutes of his April 16, 2007 show, Weiner called Prime Minister Blair "Tony the Coward".

Again, we don't live in the soviet union. Since when can't we make fun of public figures?

Also during the first 30 minutes of his April 16, 2007 show, Weiner called the Republicans running for President in 2008 "empty-suits". Weiner singled out Mayor Rudolph Giuliani by name.

This is insane. Giuliani is not a conservative

Weiner advocates cutting and running in Iraq.

Savage has stated his plan many times. Massive airstrikes on terrorist strongholds. Send in Iraqi army to mop up any resistance. Bring troops home, put them on the BORDER. That has been his plan for years. If you don't like it, dont listen to him

Could spend hours refuting, putting in proper context, or debating most of your list. If you don't like Savage, don't listen to him. Apparently he has 8-10 million people who like him.

370 posted on 08/28/2008 8:26:58 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: camerakid400; lormand

“So nobody is allowed to criticise the president b/c we are at war? Every conservative must support Bush? We don’t live in a fascist state. Savage can sat whatever the heck he wants about Bush.”

Glad to see you agree with The List.


371 posted on 08/28/2008 10:19:21 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: camerakid400; lormand

“Completely out of context. I heard the shows during the VA tech shooting. He doesn’t want the mentally ill to own guns, but said if some students had them, the shooter would have been stopped sooner.”

What’s the missing “context”?


372 posted on 08/28/2008 10:22:12 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: camerakid400; lormand
“Again, we don't live in the soviet union. Since when can't we make fun of public figures?”

Glad to see you are not arguing with facts.

373 posted on 08/28/2008 10:24:17 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: camerakid400; lormand

“This is insane. Giuliani is not a conservative”

Glad to see you are not contesting The List.


374 posted on 08/28/2008 10:26:08 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: camerakid400; lormand

“Could spend hours refuting, putting in proper context, or debating most of your list.”

Near as I can tell, you haven’t touched the List.


375 posted on 08/28/2008 10:28:06 PM PDT by Checkers (McCain: "Hillary Clinton would make a good President.")
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To: whatisthetruth
Don't dis National Review. Some of us are old enough to remember when National Review was the conservative movement.

Savage is a dolt. The fact that he hates most of the same things conservatives hate doesn't give him a pass for spouting stupidity about developmental disorders. Sure, the state schools and lots of parents want to take the easy way out and decide misbehavior is a disorder, but when they do that they call it ADHD or 'conduct disorder'. Autism is not a convenience diagnosis, but a serious brain disorder that damned well isn't going to be fixed by a father dishing out the sort of abusive 'grow-up' talk the loud-mouth of the airwaves advocates. Savage needs to stop acting like a putz and grow up.

376 posted on 08/28/2008 10:38:24 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Checkers

You didn’t say that Savage wanted more students to have their second amendment rights and more lenient laws for law abiding citizens. You said he wanted stricter gun laws, when in reality he just wanted it harder for mentally illl to own guns, which makes perfect sense.

Your attitude in terms of my other responses is quite juvenile. Why can’t Savage make fun of Giuliani and Tony Blair?


377 posted on 08/29/2008 2:29:11 AM PDT by camerakid400
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To: Checkers
“Could spend hours refuting, putting in proper context, or debating most of your list.” Near as I can tell, you haven’t touched the List.

What are you talking about? Your assertion about the gun laws is misleading at best. You don't think a talk show host can make fun of public figures, which is insane and completely rediculous. You make blanket false statements like "Weiner advocates cutting and running in Iraq," which he does not. I explained his position already in my previous post. I'd say your little list is baloney.

378 posted on 08/29/2008 2:57:58 AM PDT by camerakid400
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To: whatisthetruth
"...ban all his books and burn them..."

Who among us have advocated this?

379 posted on 08/29/2008 1:56:13 PM PDT by lormand ("If I were Putin, I would have done the same" - "Conservative" talk show host Mikhail Savage)
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To: Checkers
"Near as I can tell, you haven’t touched the List."

The List is as obscure to a Weiner fan as the Weiner fan's understanding of Weiner's own words.

380 posted on 08/29/2008 2:02:57 PM PDT by lormand ("If I were Putin, I would have done the same" - "Conservative" talk show host Mikhail Savage)
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