Are Pot Users Criminals? The Tragic Case of Rachel Hoffman

ABC News ^ | July 24, 2008 | BRIAN ROSS and VIC WALTER

[dragnet2]

agreeing to set up the people that sell her illegal drugs, she made a bad choice and died because of it.

Do you think law enforcement taking some stupid female, that was busted for pot, and using her for drug buys was a safe thing for law enforcement to do?

And if pot possession is so bad, why would the courts and law enforcement bait some ignorant young 23 year old female to lure complete strangers into drug buys.

Ya think they trained and allowed this foolish youngster to be armed before doing their bidding to go in and buy firearms and drugs from strangers?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Somebody needs to have their ass locked in jail over this.

Too bad it will never happen.

[BreezyDog]

Opiates create a physical dependency. Not a good idea. You really don’t hear anything about pot addicts. I’m all for nuking the Helmand province.

[Redcoat1982]

Well, we now have at least 2.5 generations of people who realize that the dire warnings about pot are a lie.

Its just a matter of time, the anti pot people will die out, and the people who actually know the truth will change the laws.

[ConservaTexan]

So you believe that she was completely innocent and had never used drugs? Those damn cops planted it on her! Right?

[dragnet2]

I probablu canned 50 usless bastards for using pot.

“How did you catch them? On the job?”

yes.

Let me get this straight, so in your business, over a period of time, you walked up and found over 50 people smoking pot?

Is that right?

[herewego]

Who actually thinks congress has the authority or intelligence to proscribe how any American should live?

[dalereed]

Hopefully someone will kill you before then!

If I had my way anyone using drugs should on the spot execution.

[waiyu]

just healthy debate

[bamahead]

This young lady was a Professenle Drug Payer, she did not need training.

This was a 23 year old college student who got caught twice with a 'baggie' of pot (probably not more than a few grams), and two pills.

She was sent by the cops, wired, to exchange thousands of dollars for large quantities of cocaine, hundreds of pills and a firearm with two known street thugs, who were armed.

It's just that open and shut to you, eh?

[boogerbear]

You’ve got serious issues.

[dragnet2]

Do you think law enforcement taking some stupid female, that was busted for pot, and using her for drug buys was a safe thing for law enforcement to do?

And if pot possession is so bad, why would the courts and law enforcement bait some ignorant young 23 year old female to lure complete strangers into drug buys, instead of sending her to jail?

Ya think they trained and allowed this foolish youngster to be armed before doing their bidding to go in and buy firearms and drugs from strangers?

[BreezyDog]

Probably because they were baby boomers or younger.

I agree about the baby boomers being the worst generation in recorded history but your generalizing pot users is plain wrong. I think you need to not hire baby boomers. They seem to be your problem not the spliffers.

[dragnet2]

probablu canned 50 usless bastards for using pot.

“How did you catch them? On the job?”

yes.

Let me get this straight, so in your business, over a period of time, you walked up and found over 50 people smoking pot?

Is that right?

[herewego]

ta hell with the Constitution and Bill of Rights huh.

[bamahead]

If I had my way anyone using drugs should on the spot execution.

The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic. -- H.L. Mencken

[Redcoat1982]

So, you want my death, because I have an opinion?

Gee, seems like we are fighting in Afghanistan against people like you.

Guess God is to blame, he made marijuana. Lets kill Him!

[ConservaTexan]

Do you think law enforcement taking some stupid female, that was busted for pot, and using her for drug buys was a safe thing for law enforcement to do?

I think it is a necessary evil to use criminals to catch other criminals.

Ya think they trained and allowed this foolish youngster to be armed before doing their bidding to go in and buy firearms and drugs from strangers?

This "foolish youngster" was 23 years old. At what age should we expect people to avoid criminal behavior?

[I see my hands]

"I didn’t say that something inherent in marijuana use led to this woman’s death. She chose to use drugs, got busted, then died trying to cut a deal to lessen her sentence. Whether it was choosing to use illegal drugs or agreeing to set up the people that sell her illegal drugs, she made a bad choice and died because of it."

That's not true. In your post #19 you specifically pointed to using pot as having negative consequences. And the consequence we are talking about in this case is her death. In fact there is nothing about pot that led to this woman's death. Only it's prohibition.

It's also not true that she died trying to cut a deal. She died in the execution of a sting she was coerced into.

[waiyu]

Ok. So the gangsters find something else to sell. Then what?