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Are Pot Users Criminals? The Tragic Case of Rachel Hoffman
ABC News ^ | July 24, 2008 | BRIAN ROSS and VIC WALTER

Posted on 07/25/2008 8:49:03 PM PDT by bamahead

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To: greccogirl

I figured that out the further I read. Thanks for the heads up.


721 posted on 07/29/2008 7:38:24 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: MartinStyles
If it were my real name, might have a point doper..

Nice punctuation skills.

722 posted on 07/29/2008 7:43:01 AM PDT by jmc813 (Scattered, smothered, covered, diced, chunked)
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To: jmc813

Yawn.


723 posted on 07/29/2008 7:47:03 AM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: Free Descendant

“Well raw IQ means little in terms of traditional notions of success.”

I have read and heard that the best predictors of success are:

1. Passion
2. Determination
3. Talent
4. Self Discipline
5. Faith

It sounds like the example being discussed is missing at least 4 of these 5, regardless of the drug being used.


724 posted on 07/29/2008 7:57:55 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: Free Descendant

Nice post and your points are spot on for my post #724.


725 posted on 07/29/2008 8:57:41 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: CSM
Ted Kennedy was.

Ted Kennedy occupies one of the 535 seats in Congress. You have no point.

Ted Kennedy is a substance abuser who believes he is above the law. He's your guy.

Ted Kennedy is an smug elistist who despises the will of the public as expressed through our republican forms of representative government. He's your guy.

Ted Kennedy supports a pothead for President of the United States. He's your guy.

You should be ashamed. But leftists never are.

726 posted on 07/29/2008 6:04:08 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: greccogirl
Success? What success? Pray tell let me know the “success”.

Posted March 1, 2008 10:06 AM

by Mark Silva

President Bush, releasing the 2008 National Drug Control Strategy today, says the report portrays “hopeful progress... in the fight against addiction.’’

With a goal of cutting drug abuse among young people by 25 percent during his two terms, Bush says the administration has focused on interdiction “to keep drugs out of the United States,’’ abuse-prevention and education and treatment for “those who’ve fallen prey.’’

“These efforts have produced measurable results,’’ he said today, in his weekly radio address. “Since 2001, the rate of youth drug abuse has dropped by 24 percent.’’

Ecstasy is off 50 percent, methamphetamines off 64 percent, the report concludes.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/bush_drug_abuse_down_drug_war.html

727 posted on 07/29/2008 6:10:52 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: greccogirl
He is a kid lying on the ground with a BROKEN BACK and broken heel.

Nameless, sourceless, BS.

728 posted on 07/29/2008 6:13:40 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: kcvl
Los Angeles County public records show that Portillo was convicted of driving with a suspended license, and more than 15 years ago he was convicted on charges of vandalism and bringing drugs into a prison or jail.

No mention of him, his dad and other gangbangers assaulting two sheriffs.

729 posted on 07/29/2008 6:16:30 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: waiyu
I talked this afternoon to a friend of mine who is a Deputy in South Texas.

Assuming he exists, he's ignorant of Florida law and police procedures.

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/ogc/case_updates/cu06-01_1-07.html

730 posted on 07/29/2008 6:19:29 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: elkfersupper
You forgot the sarcasm tags.

You made a good post.

/sarcasm

Posted March 1, 2008 10:06 AM
by Mark Silva

President Bush, releasing the 2008 National Drug Control Strategy today, says the report portrays “hopeful progress... in the fight against addiction.’’

With a goal of cutting drug abuse among young people by 25 percent during his two terms, Bush says the administration has focused on interdiction “to keep drugs out of the United States,’’ abuse-prevention and education and treatment for “those who’ve fallen prey.’’

“These efforts have produced measurable results,’’ he said today, in his weekly radio address. “Since 2001, the rate of youth drug abuse has dropped by 24 percent.’’

Ecstasy is off 50 percent, methamphetamines off 64 percent, the report concludes.


731 posted on 07/29/2008 6:21:39 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

You are truly dense. The fact that Ted Kennedy is in office is an indictment of the voters in his district and he meets your requirement that he serves in the capacity to propose and get passed laws.

You are the one ready to accept “the will of the voters” as gospel. Which is it? Do you accept the electorates desires or not?

Keep up with your own arguments.


732 posted on 07/30/2008 5:18:00 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: Mojave
Yea, strangest thing. They don't teach Florida law in TEXAS
733 posted on 07/30/2008 5:26:41 AM PDT by waiyu (Living is the only thing worth dying for.)
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To: waiyu
Rachel Hoffman was in Tallahassee, Florida.
734 posted on 07/30/2008 7:56:54 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: CSM
The fact that Ted Kennedy is in office is an indictment of the voters in his district and he meets your requirement that he serves in the capacity to propose and get passed laws.

Ted Kennedy occupies one of the 535 seats in Congress. You have no point.

[crickets]

Ted Kennedy is a substance abuser who believes he is above the law. He's your guy.

[crickets]

Ted Kennedy is an smug elistist who despises the will of the public as expressed through our republican forms of representative government. He's your guy.

[crickets]

Ted Kennedy supports a pothead for President of the United States. He's your guy.

[crickets]

You should be ashamed. But leftists never are.

[crickets]

735 posted on 07/30/2008 7:59:11 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: bamahead
“”I'm calling her a criminal,” Tallahassee police chief Dennis Jones told 20/20...”

She may be the criminal in the eyes of the law, but morally she is a beacon of purity compared to Dennis Jones. He uses and abuses young women for his own ends, just like a pimp. I'm calling you an @sshole Dennis Jones.

736 posted on 07/30/2008 8:32:05 AM PDT by monday
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To: Mojave

You really do need to keep track of your own arguments.

Post #592 “American voters created the laws that the dopers violate”. That was your comment.

My comment was that American voters also elected Ted Kennedy. It is simple, the electorate should not be trusted with regards to protecting individual liberties. You commented otherwise.

So, you supporting the electorate that created the laws regarding controlled substance is also an affirmative support of the electorate that continually puts Ted Kennedy in office, same with Nancy Pelosi, same with the electorate that continually fails to put people into office that would appoint USSC Justices that would overturn Roe.

If you are such a “a law is the law and should be obeyed at all costs” kind of guy, I guess you wouldn’t expend energy to get Roe overturned, to get Kelo overturned, heck you probably would have just blindly accepted the Jim Crowe laws.

You should really go back and read the mission statement by the founder of this site.

None of your comments about Ted Kennedy are even remotely connected to your original argument, so none of them deserve a reply.

I’m done with you. I don’t need to waste my time with fools.


737 posted on 07/30/2008 9:07:53 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: greccogirl; ConservaTexan; CSM; waiyu; Mojave; elkfersupper; Free Descendant; jmc813; ...
As noted by the FBI:
“The dangers to a free society that are implicit in the use of informers have long been recognized”
(Sir Thomas May quote below):

“Next in importance to personal freedom is immunity from suspicions, and jealous observation. Men may be without restraints upon their liberty; they may pass to and fro at pleasure; but if their steps are tracked by spies and informers, their words noted down for crimination, their associates watched as conspirators, who shall say that they are free?

Nothing is more revolting to Englishmen than the espionage which forms part of the administrative system of continental despotism. It haunts men like an evil genius, chills their gaiety, restrains their wit, casts a shadow over their friendships, and blights their domestic hearth. The freedom of a country may be measured by its immunity from this baleful agency.

Rulers who distrust their own people must govern in a spirit of absolutism, and suspected subjects will be ever sensible of their bondage.”~ Sir Thomas May,
(on the coerced use of crime suspects as informants or spies.)

738 posted on 07/30/2008 9:17:30 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: FBD
their words noted down for crimination

Murder and drug dealing equals freedom of speech. Trippy.

739 posted on 07/31/2008 8:21:07 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: CSM
“American voters created the laws that the dopers violate”.

Through legislative bodies, not through an individual substance abuser who holds himself above the law, who hates republican forms of representative government and who support a pothead for President. Your guy all the way.

740 posted on 07/31/2008 8:25:02 PM PDT by Mojave
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