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Whistling Past the Graveyard--Osama sets up his “American Hiroshima.”
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 7-25-08 | John Perazzo

Posted on 07/25/2008 5:38:07 AM PDT by SJackson

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"Irreparable ruins?" Yeah, like Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still deserted wastelands, right?


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What's that you say? Hiroshima's population is 1.6 million and Nagasaki's is half a million?

"Irreparable" by what standard?

41 posted on 07/25/2008 6:51:36 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

See #9


42 posted on 07/25/2008 6:54:16 AM PDT by ryan71 (Boring, normal, mainstream, white guy)
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To: MrB

You know why lawyers always wear a tie?

The tie keeps the foreskin from slipping up over the head.


43 posted on 07/25/2008 6:59:28 AM PDT by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain TO EAT VEGETABLES!)
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To: mvpel

It could be ‘’THE RAPTURE’’are we ready?


44 posted on 07/25/2008 7:00:30 AM PDT by shadeaud
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To: SJackson

This rumor is at least 5 years old.


45 posted on 07/25/2008 7:02:43 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: SJackson
If Chechen rebels had suitcase nukes they wouldn't be selling them to AQ. They'd be setting them off in Moscow to get their independence from the Ruskies.

Ergo, this article is hooey.

46 posted on 07/25/2008 7:06:33 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Condor51
If Chechen rebels had suitcase nukes they wouldn't be selling them to AQ. They'd be setting them off in Moscow to get their independence from the Ruskies.

Ditto! That's been my theory for years. It's a whole lot easier to use a Russian nuke within Russia (it's already there!)
47 posted on 07/25/2008 7:14:46 AM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: Bobarian
Yes indeed. Very wrong...

...but we understand the sentiment.

;)

48 posted on 07/25/2008 7:14:49 AM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: SJackson
If the Chechen's had 40 suitcase nukes, remembering these are the same people who organized that school massacre, what are the odds that they would give them up instead of demanding the Russians capitulate or face the consequences?

Lame indeed.

49 posted on 07/25/2008 7:16:49 AM PDT by dalight
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To: SJackson

PAUL POTTS SINGS NUKE MECCA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZzUSiFIIg8


50 posted on 07/25/2008 7:21:13 AM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Niuhuru
Then we would make arrangements for our Muslim population to leave the country...whether they like it or not.

That should have started 9/12/01.

51 posted on 07/25/2008 7:23:39 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Bobarian

I doubt it. President Bush is a good guy, maybe too good. He wouldn’t nuke “innocents” to get revenge for such an attack or even make that threat.

Besides, these clowns probably WANT us to do something like that. They could recruit virtually the entire Moslem world (1.2+ billion people) for war against us if we did that, and probably a good chunk of Europe and the Far East.

They just don’t have the nukes, or at least they don’t have working nukes.


52 posted on 07/25/2008 7:24:13 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Condor51

You might be right.
On the other hand, the Russian response to a nuke might be to exterminate every living Chechen where ever they might be.
Slowly.
With dull, rusty spoons coated in bacon grease.

Russians don’t respond to threats and attacks the same way our politicians do. They are quite a bit more vicious and pragmatic.


53 posted on 07/25/2008 7:32:30 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

My research on this topic is over 5 years old, so my memory is not that great on it, but here is what I remember.

1. According to Joel Rosenberg, novelist and politico with access to top level execs in the US, Israel, and former KGB - yes, there are ‘’Suitcae’’ nukes. They were to be used by Spetsnaz (sp?) during the cold war, for pre-emption purposes.

2. They are small kt. and yes, suitcase sized - but were to be used in in elongated backpacks due to the triggering device, so maybe the vernacular should have been ‘’backpack nukes’’. (I can’t site my sources, so see what you can find.)

3. The units do take maintenance, and, as I recall, offer little protection to the carrier. I recall there were other issues of instability and reliability that pointed to ‘’smoke ‘em if you got ‘em’’.

Now, as the former webmaster for Worldthreats.com, I believe there is compelling evidence that AQ has smuggled such devices. One source is from Hamid Mir, the only journalist to have had access to Bin Laden since the ny/dc massacres. On top of that, there is the fatwa(s) that Bin Laden lobbied for.

Still, I don’t buy it, myself. I fear Chinese or KGB false flag targeted strategies - but even those are too risky to attempt and survive (MAD).
I used to be obsessed with this crap and realized lfe was passing me by. lol!


54 posted on 07/25/2008 7:33:27 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (''Undocumented nukes want to do the job that American nukes won't do.'')
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To: areukiddingme1

I agree. I just started doing some IDPA competitions, and I’m hoping I can get some more of those in before anything really bad happens.


55 posted on 07/25/2008 7:36:33 AM PDT by faloi
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To: Bobarian

Don’t forget how close it is to Williamson, though.


56 posted on 07/25/2008 7:41:30 AM PDT by faloi
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To: SJackson

The whole suitcase nuke theory has been going around for years now. It was started by a nut named Paul Williams. I am sorry to see that Weyrich has bought into it. Richard Miniter thoroughly debunked this theory in a book a few years ago.

This is too bad because it distracts from the fact that our borders are indeed truly vulnerable, that intelligence indicates Al Qaeda knows this and reports that Hezbollah has been involved in human smuggling along the Mexican border.

But when someone trots out the whole 20 suitcase nukes theory, all that gets lost in the bull####.


57 posted on 07/25/2008 7:49:56 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: Bobarian

Well, I was thinking San Francisco Cleveland and maybe Needles.


58 posted on 07/25/2008 7:55:21 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
I don't either, but I'll add number 4, subject to correction.

1. They don’t exist, and there never were any.
2. They are not suitcase size they are refrigerator size.
3. They need to be serviced. The original ones are now no longer functional.
4. They are detectable.

Could one be snuck in without detection, at the border or destination. Sure, anything's possible. Twenty of twenty successes, I don't believe Homeland Security is that incompetent.

59 posted on 07/25/2008 8:20:13 AM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama will not be coming to us, I don't know why, Spokesperson US military hospital Landstuhl)
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To: Gorzaloon
The Problem is foremost the American Left. Effective addressing of the Problem would amount to a pogrom of an extent that heretofore only Mao and Stalin and Hitler have dreamed of. It won't happen.
60 posted on 07/25/2008 8:26:53 AM PDT by arthurus
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