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CNN exclusive: Obama on foreign policy - (Obama believes jihad is a result of U.S. foreign policy)
cnn.com ^ | July 13, 2008

Posted on 07/13/2008 7:45:00 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: BusterBear

The guy is a millionth of an inch thick and miles wide.
The simplest scratch and he disappears.


41 posted on 07/13/2008 9:03:52 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: smoketree
Then you have to ask where was he born? Was he born during the first marriage or between marriages 1 and 2?

Considering that obamination Sr. already had a wife in Africa = were they ever married?

This may be some of the information he doesn't want seen - along with what his name was on the birth cert....

Did he acquire the two very Muslim/Arab names of Barrack and Hussein on his first visit to meet with his Kenya family - Muslims - who gave him the names? (He was, at the time, if we believe his writings, searching for his identity...and then, deciding he was black, he had to prove he was black enough...

What's the name on the BC, Barry?

42 posted on 07/13/2008 9:05:19 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: raybbr
" ... but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there's bottom-up economic growth."

Why do Democrats continue to believe militant Islam is driven by economic situations when Mohammad Atta and many of the other September 11th hijackers were middle-class college-educated Arabs.

Second, why is it the West's responsibility to "make sure that opportunities are" available in the Islamic world. It is an asinine statement.

43 posted on 07/13/2008 9:06:20 PM PDT by magellan
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To: maine-iac7

Does he have an American BC?
Why does the question persist?


44 posted on 07/13/2008 9:09:33 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: Plutarch

45 posted on 07/13/2008 9:10:01 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: magellan
This is a post on the New Yorker article Making It. He made the statement shortly after 911.


To: pabianice
The article takes the following statement by Obama about 9/11 from The Hyde Park Herald

Even as I hope for some measure of peace and comfort to the bereaved families, I must also hope that we as a nation draw some measure of wisdom from this tragedy. Certain immediate lessons are clear, and we must act upon those lessons decisively. We need to step up security at our airports. We must reexamine the effectiveness of our intelligence networks. And we must be resolute in identifying the perpetrators of these heinous acts and dismantling their organizations of destruction.

We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair.

We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad. We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent. Finally, we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the globe—children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.

21 posted on 07/13/2008 5:57:18 PM PDT by Stentor

46 posted on 07/13/2008 9:35:28 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama is a classic liberal party-line Dem, meaning he adheres wholeheartedly to the “root causes” explanation of why foreign states are social and economic basket cases, and often downright pathological. By a remarkable coincidence, those “root causes” always manage to implicate the United States as the source of the worlds ills, great and small. No matter what the problem may be, you can be rest assured that the fault lies with the United States.
47 posted on 07/13/2008 10:03:23 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Stentor

He’s like a kid in a candy store thinking there is an endless supply and that it is just always there no matter how much he takes and since he is a geek he thinks he can give away an endless supply to the other kids so they will like him.


48 posted on 07/13/2008 10:07:03 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It isn't to say that there is a direct correlation, but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there's bottom-up economic growth.
Work with Islamists and pay the Jizya?
49 posted on 07/13/2008 10:23:34 PM PDT by rmlew (Liberalism is like AIDS; it destroys the natural defenses of a nation or civilization.)
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To: Travis McGee; Free ThinkerNY; Interesting Times; devolve; potlatch

50 posted on 07/13/2008 10:32:37 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
>>>>>What I am absolutely convinced of is that, to maintain permanent bases, to have ongoing combat forces, to have an open-ended commitment of the sort that John McCain and George Bush have advocated, is a mistake. It is a strategic mistake.

If you're POTUS, nothing should be taken off the table. You should never reveal your hand either. Obama once again making it abundantly clear why he's so dangerous to America's future. Undermining the military and devaluing our forces to third world status, is what the Dems seek and what would satisfy our enemies.

51 posted on 07/13/2008 10:47:54 PM PDT by Reagan Man ( McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: smoketree

What worries me more than his lack of foreign policy experience is his lack of military experience. That’s where McCain really trumps him.


52 posted on 07/13/2008 11:12:17 PM PDT by vanishing liberty
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And the conquest of SPAIN???

Just what was it that made Indonesia “muslim lands”???


53 posted on 07/14/2008 12:35:18 AM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: Humble Servant
The break for the Jihadi's in 9/11 was their accomplices working the airport ramps, food and cleaning services getting box cutters onto aircraft for their use as weapons.

Similarly, leftists give jihadi's a break to get their weapons aboard our government, to destroy it, too.

HF

54 posted on 07/14/2008 1:25:22 AM PDT by holden
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To: raybbr
He's telling us that he will agree to extortion.

He's told us that successfully dealing with Iran comes down to offering them a big enough incentive package. Words like "bribe", "extortion", and "appeasement" should never be used to describe policies of His Obamic Holiness. That's racist.

55 posted on 07/14/2008 3:03:35 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion '08-My only reason for voting this year)
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To: vanishing liberty
Isn’t this more or less the same thing that Bush has been saying, that we have to bring democracy and economic hope to the Middle East so that radical Islam will loose its grip? Sounds like, once again, he’s trying to co-opt a Republican idea.

The difference would be that Bush requires some measure of accountability. I believe Obama would simply send money and let the tyrants have their way. Also, I believe Obama truly does not want the US to remain The world power that it is.

56 posted on 07/14/2008 3:32:48 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: yankeedame

He previously remembered his grandfather teaching him the Pledge of Allegiance - - when he was 2 years old!


57 posted on 07/14/2008 5:15:35 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: Travis McGee

love that cover. It completely captures the essence of things.


58 posted on 07/14/2008 5:17:22 AM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
***OBAMA: I don't think so. Look, first of all, I have never talked about leaving the field entirely. What I've said is that we would get our combat troops out of Iraq, that we would not have permanent bases in Iraq.

I've talked about maintaining a residual force there to ensure that al Qaeda does not re-form in Iraq, that we're making sure that we are providing logistical support and potential training to Iraqi forces — so long as we're not training sectarian armies that are then fighting each other — to protect our diplomats, to protect humanitarian efforts in the region.

So, nobody's talking about abandoning the field.***

Obama is a flat out liar. He had previously said that a “COMPLETE” withdrawal would take approx 16 months and would begin the day he is sworn in.

59 posted on 07/14/2008 5:25:47 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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