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Ex-pastor pleads to 9 counts of voyeurism
bradenton herald ^ | 07.12.08 | NATALIE NEYSA ALUND

Posted on 07/12/2008 8:38:19 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: annalex

I am through with you.


21 posted on 07/13/2008 4:18:24 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Coleus

Why do you have to change clothes for a Bible study?


22 posted on 07/13/2008 4:19:43 PM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Tribune7

You don’t, unless, for example, you’ve just come from an activity requiring physical exertion, such as a sporting contest.


23 posted on 07/13/2008 5:51:25 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: annalex
One aspect of this bias is the uncessant reporting on the sexual abuse by Catholic priests, when the truth is that Protestant ministers are statistically abusers at the same rate, and public school teachers — the worst.

While I think beating up on your fellow FReepers to prove a point is wrong, I believe your analysis concerning the Catholic church and the sexual molestation of youngsters is incorrect.

There are many layers in the Catholic church which were involved in burying and hiding sex predators for decades. I don't think we'll every really know what the true number is.

Finding and publishing a story about a Baptist here or a Methodist there really proves nothing. Especially when nobody knows what your agenda is.

24 posted on 07/13/2008 7:08:25 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
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To: VeniVidiVici

It is true that the Catholic Church has organizational layers that Protestant communities often don’t have. Further, in a Protestant setting the records are seldom kept, and it is impossible to sue anything but the local church, so few lawsuits are filed. However the rate of abuse seems to be the same, at least judging by the insurance claims, and the rate at which abusers were re-hired despite allegations of abuse is significant in the Protestant communities.

I can corroborate that easily if you want me to.

I agree, however that this entire topic is unproductive, and have no clue why I was pinged to this in the first place. While I make no apologies for my Holy Catholic Church, I did not make is my specialty to post about Protestant sex abuse.


25 posted on 07/13/2008 8:30:33 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Hebrews 11:6; PAR35; no dems
Priest Abuse Fliers

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2007/09_10/2007_09_02_Stephens_PriestAbuse.htm

By LaTonya Stephens
Tri-State Homepage
September 2, 2007

http://tristatehomepage.com/content/fulltext/?cid=2567

Victims of abuse are asking other victims to step out of the shadows and the Evansville diocese to acknowledge their responsibilities.

The Silent Lambs organization and Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests say recent revelations of molestation by a local priest is another example of the church's failure to protect the innocent.

They showed up Sunday at Saint Benedict's Cathedral handing out fliers encouraging members to support abuse victims and to push the catholic church to be honest about abusive priests.

David Clohessy says Bishop Ferald Gettelfinger's recent disclosure of abuse by now deceased Monsignor Othmar Schroeder prompted the action.

Clohessy says for 11 years Bishop Gettelfinger has known that Schroeder is a predator and yet kept silent.

He also says Gettelfinger admitted that there are others whose names he has not disclosed.

Those wanting to learn more about the SNAP victim's group can log onto www.snapnetwork.org.

26 posted on 07/15/2008 8:46:33 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins
Of course, it is with great sadness when I learn of people who abuse others by employing his position of authority to enable the abuse, regardless which institution conferred that authority.
27 posted on 07/16/2008 12:25:22 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6
I definitely agree
28 posted on 07/16/2008 1:30:45 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Coleus
We're still waiting for your response. Will you respond? If so, when? If not, why not?
29 posted on 07/18/2008 7:28:04 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6; Alex Murphy; Coleus
Like no Dems in post #4, I too have noticed this seemingly unending series of posts by you reporting on Protestant ministers committing sexual sins and crimes. Strangely, you never report on Catholic priests doing the same, as alluded to by VeniVidiVici in post #14; I looked back through many months of your posts to confirm that. Why this imbalance? What is your point? This series of yours is now so onesided that we can only conclude that surely you have an agenda, some axe to grind, though only on one side. It's time to divulge it, rather than leaving us to speculate.

If I may, I think the purpose is to provide a counterpoint to the slew of articles posted by people such as Alex Murphy which reported on sexually related crimes commited by Catholics. The posts by Coleus show that the issue is hardly a Catholic issue, as some have tried to imply.

And all of a sudden these articles are not quite so funny anymore.

30 posted on 07/18/2008 7:35:34 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: annalex

The correlation is not Catholic sexual abuse versus Protestant sexual abuse. The true outrage was not that a Catholic Priest would do such a thing, the outrage was over the hierarchy of the Catholic Church covering it up, moving the Priest to a new parish with fresh victims, and blaming the victim for being “seductive”.


31 posted on 07/18/2008 7:37:05 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: Hacksaw

You may be correct. You are the second poster to propose an explanation, but I would like to hear it directly from Coleus. Applying Jesus’ admonition to expect judgment in the very way that I judge, I feel confident that I would not embark on such an antagonistic project without providing at least the courtesy of explanation; therefore, it is not unreasonable for me to expect, and to request, that same courtesy from Coleus. The silence is both deafening and revealing.


32 posted on 07/18/2008 7:46:13 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Hacksaw; Hebrews 11:6; Coleus
If I may, I think the purpose is to provide a counterpoint to the slew of articles posted by people such as Alex Murphy which reported on sexually related crimes commited by Catholics.

You can think that's the purpose all you want, but that would be considered mindreading if you do. But if we did accept that rationale, here are the numbers:

Slew of articles = 13 threads re one priest (Fr. Bob Whipkey, the naked jogging priest) over the course of twelve months.
Providing a counterpoint = 59 threads in 20 days.

33 posted on 07/18/2008 8:30:30 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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