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Chinese Government is Top Foreign Holder of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Bonds
Market Watch ^ | July 11, 2008 | Adam Brandon

Posted on 07/12/2008 5:43:39 AM PDT by Need4Truth

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To: panaxanax
This is not a call for an overthrow of the U.S. government.

Sure it is. There is a mechanism built in to "throw the bums out." It's called "elections".

21 posted on 07/12/2008 7:10:15 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: panaxanax
"So many forget that THEY WORK FOR US."

It's been a long, long time since most of these jokers, Republican or Democrat, have worked for the people who pay taxes so they can pick up a paycheck. On the contrary, they work for themselves and their buddies that kick back campaign funds and who knows what else to them from the taxpayer $ received that their buddies vote for them.

There's no other explanation for someone spending a million+ bucks to get elected to a 2-yr. term with a salary of apprx. $ 330,000. That's the base salary, but the good part is these guys think they are entitled to anything they're able to steal above that. As long as their constituents keep electing them, they're right.

22 posted on 07/12/2008 7:25:44 AM PDT by penowa
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To: JACKRUSSELL; TigerLikesRooster

ping


23 posted on 07/12/2008 7:30:08 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: aclusux.com
Who manages the financial services regulatory agencies and answer to the President? Barney Frank and Ron Paul. The “Dream Team.” Maybe Frank was to busy boarding prostitutes to pay attention to the Fed, SEC, and Fannie Mae and the Banking industry.

Sounds like Bush wasn't paying attention either.

24 posted on 07/12/2008 7:30:45 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Need4Truth
All youa house are berong to us. You no pay, we take youa house.

The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming!

25 posted on 07/12/2008 7:38:20 AM PDT by stboz
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To: servantboy777
China is investing heavily in our financial institutions for one primary purpose.....economic sabotage.

Or they could want the yeild

26 posted on 07/12/2008 8:01:50 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Need4Truth

The Chi-Coms may be tempted to simply go ahead and seize about $400 billion of American useful idiots’ investments in Red China. Why wait any longer? This is a good excuse from their perspective.


27 posted on 07/12/2008 8:07:42 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: aclusux.com

>Who manages the financial services regulatory agencies and answer to the President? Barney Frank and Ron Paul.<

Are you a comedian?


28 posted on 07/12/2008 8:10:06 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: servantboy777

You’ll have to explain how China’s financial loss is harmful to the US for me to agree with you re .....economic sabotage.


29 posted on 07/12/2008 8:13:21 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Need4Truth

The problem could be that wall of bonuses Ms Gorelick built when she had a top job at Fannie Mae. Maybe it blocked good management? Hid the shenanigans from honest people?


30 posted on 07/12/2008 8:18:47 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

<< “The Chi-Coms may be tempted to simply go ahead and seize about $400 billion of American useful idiots’ investments in Red China” >>

good point.


31 posted on 07/12/2008 8:37:39 AM PDT by Need4Truth
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To: B4Ranch

The marvel of a market economy is that it is win-win. The downside is that it also happens to be lose-lose. Defaulting on those debt obligations will mean loss of investor and borrower confidence and failure of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. What this means for the real estate market in the U.S. is a massive collapse which will be felt even a decade from now. Wiping out 370 billion of Chinese loans may warm the cockles of some hearts, it also means wiping out ten times as much in American homeowner equity.

To translate what this means for the individual homeowner, is that millions of Americans will suddenly find themselves owing much more money than their homes are worth. A textbook case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Not to mention that while China is the largest owner of U.S. debt, it is still a fraction of the total amount. I doubt Japan, Belgium, or private investor money funneled in from the Cayman islands are going to be any happier.


32 posted on 07/12/2008 10:19:15 AM PDT by cmdjing
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To: cmdjing

>To translate what this means for the individual homeowner, is that millions of Americans will suddenly find themselves owing much more money than their homes are worth. A textbook case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.<

I disagree with you on this point. I think homes were much overvalued prior to this mess and they are now coming down to their actual worth. Just because you paid too much for your home shouldn’t be your neighbors problem.


33 posted on 07/12/2008 10:23:56 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch

But buy them they did. I don’t think you will get many sympathetic ears from millions of American families who find themselves 200,000 in debt on 100,000 worth of equity. Not only is all that equity gone, but even what remains will be near impossible to sell without Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac providing loans. What this means is that people will have a hard time raising liquid capital from sunk and frozen assets.

In any case, I was pointing out how the torpedoing of the American real estate market by defaulting on loans to foreign countries is hardly such a great idea.


34 posted on 07/12/2008 10:41:31 AM PDT by cmdjing
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To: cmdjing

Defaulting on loans is never a good idea if you wish to maintain the respect of others. I don’t think our legislators give a damn about our national reputation anymore.


35 posted on 07/12/2008 10:44:15 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: glorgau
Sure it is. There is a mechanism built in to "throw the bums out." It's called "elections".

Well if Kervorkian gets elected to Congress, we'll really have "Term Limits" in Washington DC.

36 posted on 07/12/2008 10:45:26 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: B4Ranch

Just because you paid too much for your home shouldn’t be your neighbors problem.


Yeah, but it kinda is...


37 posted on 07/12/2008 10:45:50 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Need4Truth

Indeed- it’s a mess. But a layered mess, and each layer is gooier and sticker than the previous. The first layer prompts me to say- let the Macs and Maes fall under their own weight- that was built on junk food fat of people ill-equipped to purchase a house. But if Freddie and Fannie fall- who will pay? If we bail em out, who will pay? Then the layer of foreign investors...makes it a little stickier...and other layers I don’t even know much less understand.

A MESS.


38 posted on 07/12/2008 10:53:06 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: durasell

Only if he’s buying or looking for an equity loan.


39 posted on 07/12/2008 11:00:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch

...or if he abandons the house or if the price of real estate drops to the point where very low income or section 8 folks come in...


40 posted on 07/12/2008 11:09:44 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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