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Radical Muslim Funding US Creationist Groups?
littlegreenfootballs ^ | Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:11:19 pm PDT

Posted on 07/11/2008 2:58:10 AM PDT by pending

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1 posted on 07/11/2008 2:58:10 AM PDT by pending
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To: pending

The post above is LGF,not my words.
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Once the door is opened,who steps in?
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The thread contains mixed info about Harun Yahya pen name for Adnan Oktar

Antisemitism is Racism Harun Yahya
http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/32terrorism_antisemitism_soc06.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harun_Yahya

Adnan Oktar, nom de plume Harun Yahya (a.k.a Adnan Hoca) (born Ankara, 1956), is a prominent figure in Turkish creationism and a fervent advocate of creationism in the creation-evolution controversy. He is considered by some to be the leading Muslim advocate of creationism[1]. He subscribes to Old Earth creationism.[2][3] He is against Zionism and Freemasonry and sees them as very interrelated movements, though he denounces anti-Semitism[4] and terrorism[5].

Adnan founded the Science Research Foundation (SRF, or BAV in Turkish), whose stated objective is “to [establish]...peace, tranquility and love”[6]. , though the BAV is described in the media as “a secretive Islamic sect”[7] or a “cult-like organization, that jealously guards the secrets of its considerable wealth”[8]

In September 1999 Adnan Oktar was arrested following multiple sex scandals and further allegations that was fully covered by the Turkish media. In that court case, Oktar was charged with rape, slander, libel, bribery, blackmail and creating an organization with the intent to commit a crime. These charges were dropped but later resulted on May 2008 in Oktar and 17 other members of his organisation being sentenced to 3 years in prison.


2 posted on 07/11/2008 3:17:13 AM PDT by pending (TODAY)
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To: pending

The Kansas folk brought in this stuff when attempting to block teacing evolution in the schools.

Strange bedfellows indeed.


3 posted on 07/11/2008 3:19:06 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: pending

Original article:
Muslim creationist preaches Islam and awaits Christ
http://uk.reuters.com/article/featuresNews/idUKL2926092420080619?feedType=RSS&feedName=featuresNews&sp=true


4 posted on 07/11/2008 3:20:31 AM PDT by pending (TODAY)
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To: pending

Don’t worry about anti-science groups. Evolutionism isn’t science.


5 posted on 07/11/2008 5:14:22 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body.)
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Johnson at LGF puts out a lot of interesting things, but he is a dogmatic fanatic when it comes to creation science.

I applaud him for his work on the Dan Rather hoax and he was the first to spot the photoshopped Iranian missile launch.

BUT he despises Christians and is totally intolerant of anything except naturalistic explanations of the universe.

I just ignore that part of his work and enjoy the rest.

6 posted on 07/11/2008 5:16:44 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: pending

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


7 posted on 07/11/2008 6:30:42 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: pending; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; hosepipe; xzins
"New twist on an old subject" CREVO ping...
8 posted on 07/11/2008 8:38:27 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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A bit ot, but I found this. Really food for thought:

The Jihad Candidate

How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States? As long as it took them to place a Senator from Illinois and Minnesota? The same amount of time to create a large Muslim enclave in Detroit? The time it took them to build over 2,000 mosques in America? The same amount of time required to place radical wahabbist clerics in our military and prisons as ‘chaplains’?
Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being a ‘freedom fighter’ when he was actually part of the most corrupt and violent government in Kenya’s history. Find a candidate with close ties to The Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa, a candidate who is educated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and anger behind a superficial toothy smile. Find a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barack Hussein Obama, and dares anyone to question his true ties under the banner of ‘racism’. Nurture this candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround him with Islamic teachers. Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white, anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim middle east connections and Islamic monies. Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer dollars to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa.
Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception, because questioning him on any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as ‘bigoted racism’; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of facts. Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and campaign staffs.
Where is the bloodhound American ‘free press’ who doggedly overturned every stone in the Watergate case? Where are our nation’s reporters that have placed every Presidential candidate under the microscope of detailed scrutiny; the same press who pursue Bush’s ‘Skull and Bones’ club or ran other candidates off with persistent detective and research work? Why haven’t ‘newsmen’ pursued the 65 blatant lies told by this candidate during the Presidential primaries? Where are the stories about this candidate’s cousin and the Muslim butchery in Africa? (WHOM OBAMA WENT TO KENYA TO CAMPAIGN FOR) Since when did our national press corps become weak, timid, and silent? Why haven’t they regaled us with the long list of socialists and communists who have surrounded this ‘out of nowhere’ Democrat candidate or the fact that his church re-printed the Hamas Manifesto in their bulletin, and that his ‘close pastor friend and mentor’ met with Middle East terrorist Muammar Qaddafi, (Guide of the First of September Great Revolution of the Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya)? Why isn’t the American press telling us this candidate is supported by every Muslim organization in the world?
As an ultimate slap in the face, be blatant in the fact your candidate has ZERO interest in traditional American values and has the most liberal voting record in U.S. Senate history. Why has the American mainstream media clammed up on any negative reporting on Barak Hussein Obama? Why will they print Hillary Rodham Clinton’s name but never write his middle name? Is it not his name? Why, suddenly, is ANY information about this candidate not coming from mainstream media, but from the blogosphere by citizens seeking facts and the truth? Why isn’t our media connecting the dots with Islam? Why do they focus on ‘those bad American soldiers’ while Islam slaughters non-Muslims daily in 44 countries around the globe? Why does our media refer to Darfur as ‘ethnic cleansing’ instead of what it really is: Muslims killing non-Muslims! There is enough strange, anti-American activity surrounding Barack Hussein Obama to pique the curiosity of any reporter. WHERE IS OUR INVESTIGATIVE MEDIA!?
A formal plan for targeting America was devised three years after the Iranian revolution in 1982. The plan was summarized in a 1991 memorandum by Mohammed Akram, an operative of the global Muslim Brotherhood. ‘The process of settlement’ of Muslims in America, Akram explained, ‘is a civilization jihad process.’ This means that members of the Brotherhood must understand that their work in ‘America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.’
There is terrorism we can see, smell and fear, but there is a new kind of terror invading The United States in the form of Sharia law and finance. Condoning it is civilization suicide. Middle East Muslims are coming to America in record numbers and building hate infidel mosques, buying our corporations, suing us for our traditions, but they and the whole subject of Islam is white noise leaving uninformed Americans about who and what is really peaceful. Where is our investigative press? Any criticism of Islam or their intentions, even though Islamic leaders state their intentions daily around the globe, brings forth a volley of ‘racist’ from the left-wing Democrat crowd.
Lies and deception behind a master plan - the ingredients for ‘The Manchurian Candidate’ or the placement of an anti-American President in our nation’s White House? Is it mere coincidence that an anti-capitalist run for President at the same time Islamic Sharia finance and law is trying to make advancing strides into the United States? Is it mere coincidence this same candidate wants to disarm our nuclear capability at a time when terrorist Muslim nations are expanding their nuclear weapons capability? Is it mere coincidence this candidate wants to reduce our military at a time of global jihad from Muslim nations?
Change for America? What change? To become another ‘nation of Islam’?
reprinted with permission
© Rich Carroll 2008
crossedrifles@hotmail.com


9 posted on 07/11/2008 8:39:39 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: RoadTest
Don’t worry about anti-science groups. Evolutionism isn’t science.

Sorry to disappoint you, but the theory of evolution is science.

And it is not going away just because some folks want it to.

10 posted on 07/11/2008 9:02:31 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: TXnMA

Thanks for the ping!


11 posted on 07/11/2008 9:27:18 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: pending

I don’t know about the Christian creationists-Muslim fundamentalist
connection.

But I have heard the the fight in England/Europe against teaching
evolution is carried on by the imported Muslim population.

If the USA science establishment feels under assault by Christian creationists
and/or ID advocates...
they should consider themselves lucky that they aren’t being oppossed
by people that will saw the heads off people for the smallest pretext.


12 posted on 07/11/2008 9:33:05 AM PDT by VOA
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Littlegreenfootballs is about the most retarded blog on the web. The dude who runs it is the type of person I used to beat up in high school.


13 posted on 07/11/2008 10:28:31 AM PDT by jmc813 (RIP SheLion - One of the all-time FR greats)
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To: VOA

Well, in Kansas the creationists invited these guys to testify on their behalf.

Makes me wonder if some of the strident creationists aren’t actually quietly pro-islamist.


14 posted on 07/11/2008 10:39:42 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Coyoteman
Sorry to disappoint you, but the theory of evolution is science.

For what it's worth, I sent my friend who is a plant biologist for Cornell University some of these evolution debate threads from here and elsewhere to get his take, and according to him, people on both sides of these debates, "wouldn't know science if it bit them on the a$$." Granted, he does have a way with words.

15 posted on 07/11/2008 10:39:56 AM PDT by jmc813 (RIP SheLion - One of the all-time FR greats)
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To: jmc813

A “plant biologist” is usually called a botanist.

Unless by “plant biologist” you mean someone in agriculture.


16 posted on 07/11/2008 11:17:09 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.
Unless by “plant biologist” you mean someone in agriculture.

I'm not sure what to properly call him. Last I heard, he harvests wheat in the fields on campus and then analyzes them, hybrids them, etc. I personally think he's a weirdo who fits right in in that God-forsaken town.

17 posted on 07/11/2008 11:28:27 AM PDT by jmc813 (RIP SheLion - One of the all-time FR greats)
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To: pending

Atheists are more despicable even than muslims.


18 posted on 07/11/2008 11:32:54 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Atheists are more despicable even than muslims.

Atheists don't tend to saw your head off, nor to burn you at the stake.

19 posted on 07/11/2008 11:40:41 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
Atheists killed more people in the last century than anyone else ever killed in the whole history of the world. Atheists have killed more people than all the world's religions put together.

Atheism is the worst evil humankind has ever imagined and it has caused more misery and destruction than any other idea ever has.

20 posted on 07/11/2008 11:47:21 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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