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Gates reopens tanker fight
The Hill ^ | July 9, 2008 | Roxana Tiron

Posted on 07/09/2008 12:15:52 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: cmdr straker

“Flyby Wire.. ever heard of emp.. kills them systems quick.”

Yet fly by wire is OK for F-16’s, F-22’s, F-35’s, B-2’s, F-117’s, C-17’s, F/A-18’s, and other military aircraft?

Too bad that you have more than shown that you havn’t got a single clue as to what you’re talking about, or you’d know that the Air Force requires all avionics including FBW systems to meet MIL-STD-1553B or the newer optical based MIL-STD-1773.

“I have more than posted links proving my point.”

You only posted links in your last 2 posts, and they still don’t prove squat.

“You have provided ZERO”

Like you should talk.

“except EXTREME BDS”

And in your case it’s been extreme BS.


461 posted on 08/05/2008 8:04:07 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats: Supporting America's enemies since 1824)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Yet fly by wire is OK for F-16’s, F-22’s, F-35’s, B-2’s, F-117’s, C-17’s, F/A-18’s, and other military aircraft?

BECAUSE THEY ARE SHIELDED. THE KC-30 IS NOT compaired to the KC-767.

Too bad that you have more than shown that you havn’t got a single clue as to what you’re talking about, or you’d know that the Air Force requires all avionics including FBW systems to meet MIL-STD-1553B or the newer optical based MIL-STD-1773.

Thats not gonna cover all the other systems. And there FLY BY WIRE SYSTEM IS NOT.

You only posted links in your last 2 posts, and they still don’t prove squat

Then you must need glasses.


462 posted on 08/05/2008 8:07:27 AM PDT by cmdr straker
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To: Paul Ross

Yawn.


463 posted on 08/05/2008 8:07:53 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats: Supporting America's enemies since 1824)
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To: cmdr straker

“BECAUSE THEY ARE SHIELDED. THE KC-30 IS NOT”

How do YOU know it isn’t?

“Thats not gonna cover all the other systems. And there FLY BY WIRE SYSTEM IS NOT.”

If it’s in a military aircraft IT DOES cover the systems.

“Then you must need glasses.”

And you need a clue.


464 posted on 08/05/2008 8:11:48 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats: Supporting America's enemies since 1824)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

If it’s in a military aircraft IT DOES cover the systems

No its not..its a comercial off the shelf airplane with FEW emp upgrades.

http://www.air-attack.com/news/news_article/3134/Boeing-KC-767-Tanker-Determined-More-Survivable-in-USAF-Evaluation.html

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/airforce/KC-767_Tanker_Determined_More_Survivable_in_U_Air_Force_Evaluation100015520.php


465 posted on 08/05/2008 8:14:54 AM PDT by cmdr straker
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To: All

Knock off the personal attacks. All of you. Don’t make me come back here. This thread will look like it suffered an airstrike.


466 posted on 08/05/2008 8:18:20 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Ping


467 posted on 08/05/2008 9:29:59 AM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: cmdr straker

From both links:

“Boeing today said”

As far as the other links you posted above...

The first one isn’t credible at all since it’s from one of boeing’s own unions.

The Michele Malkin one actually lends more support for what I’ve been saying.

Jed Babbin’s is laughable at best since he’s parroting boeing’s propaganda. He doesn’t even mention the fact that the Air Force IS looking for a larger more capable tanker as was stated by general handy before he was bought by boeing.

The two remaining links have zero credibility since one is huffington post, and the other is a site with ties to democratic underground and daily kos.


468 posted on 08/05/2008 11:25:14 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats: Supporting America's enemies since 1824)
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To: Paul Ross
Jed Babbin

Interesting. The link shows he had no interest in the tanker contract for two years before March, when Boeing lost the competition and presumably recruited him.

469 posted on 08/05/2008 3:42:56 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: 2CAVTrooper

and you are right and everyone else is wrong.

otay..

tennis shoes check purple vail check.. Hale Bopp


470 posted on 08/05/2008 6:00:03 PM PDT by cmdr straker
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To: cmdr straker

Look at post 466.


471 posted on 08/05/2008 6:47:38 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats: Supporting America's enemies since 1824)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Look at post 466.

You are the one ..

We have shown that you are incorrect and you attack attack and attack. even when there are links proving.


472 posted on 08/05/2008 6:50:17 PM PDT by cmdr straker
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To: cmdr straker

Ummmm no.


473 posted on 08/05/2008 7:11:41 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats: Supporting America's enemies since 1824)
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To: cmdr straker

I guess you missed the point that the production line is moving here

well here are somemore links to support the FACT that it will be BUILT IN EUROPE AND SHIPPED TO ALABAMA!!!!!!!

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Defense_Focus_Air_tanker_war_Part_4_999.html

http://www.businessfacilities.com/blog/labels/international.html

Too bad that you have more than shown that you havn’t got a single clue as to what you’re talking about,

I guess all the experts are too.. And also the GAO supported the claim and so did the USAF after the FACT.

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?printable=1&ContentBlockID=95786b17-eda7-40ba-8959-3fe7fad5040a

http://www.global-defence.com/2007/Utilities/news.php?cmd=View&id=6850

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/airforce/KC-767_Tanker_Determined_More_Survivable_in_U_Air_Force_Evaluation100015520.php


474 posted on 08/06/2008 4:10:11 AM PDT by cmdr straker
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To: Oztrich Boy
Interesting. The link shows he had no interest in the tanker contract for two years before March,

No. Nothing of the sort is "shown".

What you are apparently deriving from an absence of prior specific commentary, is only what you apparently wish to. Which is a logical fallacy. As is well understood by logicians..."An absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence." I.e., his disapproval of the EADs bid did not need to be published until it became evident that it absolutely had to be opposed.

... when Boeing lost the competition and presumably recruited him.

My, you presume a lot.

475 posted on 08/06/2008 1:31:16 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross; cmdr straker; 2CAVTrooper; Oztrich Boy; rlmorel; djwright; TankerKC; Yo-Yo
News:
Boeing supporters cry foul over Pentagon's revised tanker criteria
476 posted on 08/07/2008 2:35:49 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: MHalblaub

Here we go again

wanna bet someone got some EADS perks or a job offer.
This needs to go to the Fed courts or congress needs to shut it down.


477 posted on 08/07/2008 3:40:46 AM PDT by cmdr straker
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To: cmdr straker

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2057941/posts


478 posted on 08/07/2008 4:51:55 AM PDT by cmdr straker
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To: Paul Ross

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=27925


479 posted on 08/07/2008 4:54:32 AM PDT by cmdr straker
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To: Paul Ross; rlmorel; djwright

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2057941/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2057905/posts

take a gander


480 posted on 08/07/2008 9:06:50 AM PDT by cmdr straker
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