Posted on 06/30/2008 9:54:41 AM PDT by Right Winged American
“Adm William Stockdale”
Have you read his book?
Nothing a good strong rope and a can of graphite grease wouldn’t cure when applied correctly to certain persons in leadership positions. mThis is a Chicken **** act where’s the so called adults at in DC?
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GW Bush is once again looking out for the troops.
Think, people. I'm sure you can figure this out. If you're on an aircraft carrier 100 miles off the coast or in a fighter at 30,000 feet, how much exposure to herbicide do you want to be presumed?
This is a clarification of a necessary but obscure regulation and anyone who wants to go to war over it has way too much time on their hands. Or an ax to grind.
Ah, yes. The 'reasonable' man and his interpretations.
Where to begin...
Did you read the information about the Institute of Medicine's study of 25,000 Vietnam Veterans of ALL services over 30 years which found a much higher incidence in the U.S. Navy of cancers and illnesses 'presumed' to be caused by exposure to contaminates of Agent Orange than in the Army or Marines?
Did you read the Royal Australian Navy's report of the concentration and enhancement of the toxicity of the Dioxins by the shipboard salt water distillers?
Have you ANY idea how much fresh water the 4 LARGE steam turbines on an Essex class Aircraft Carrier requires? Or the amount of fresh water required by the 2 steam-powered aircraft catapults on board, running Alpha Strikes? Look it up. You wouldn't believe me. And that's an old WWII Carrier! (Any Oil King's here? Am I right?)
What ever gave you the idea that Carriers, Reefer Ships, Oilers, or Ammunition Ships operated 100 miles off shore on Yankee or Dixie Stations?
What about the DDG's on the Gun Line? Did you think they fired 5 inch rounds from 100 miles out?
What about the Spad's (A-3 SkyRaiders) that flew shotgun on the Ranch Hand AO Spray planes? Or the A-4's dropping Mk. 84 Snake-eyes? I guarantee you they weren't dropped from 30,000 feet; more like 300. (Any Scooter Naval Aviators here? Care to confirm?)
Do you know how many AO planes were shot up by ground fire and had to dump their load out at sea so they could make it back to land? Ever hear of the AO plane called 'Patches'? (Any Wing-Wipers here who could comment?)
I would be stunned by the massive ignorance of all things Navy you display, except for the fact that civilians of your incurious mindset are running the DVA that is doing everything it can to Delay and Deny 'till the Veteran Dies.
NOW do you understand why 18 veterans commit suicide daily!?! And why the DVA desperately tries to gloss over it? If we don't have PTSD when we muster out, we will from dealing with the DVA.
Feh!
Words fail me.
Bump to print for my Vietnam Vets Group.
Slinger, does this rate a Nav-Air ping?
What a bunch of crap! The VA can designate who is eligible for Agent Orange benefits without saying those who aren’t eligible for Agent Orange benefits didn’t serve in the Vietnam War. They ought to hear about this — a lot!
“Yes, my roommate is dead thanks to the VA hospital system.”
Um.....ok.
darn, I’ve read it a couple times and it still sends the same message. When I went to the web site, there’s a lot more to back this up. I guess if you’re on their payroll, the VA must not be half-bad. You just need to re-read it very slowly. I don’t see the cr@p - other than what’s being dished out by the VA.
It does indeed rate a Navair Ping. Thaks for the heads up.
Click on pic for past Navair pings.
Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.
Thanks for the ping Mag.
I sent links of this out to quite a few other VN Vets.
bttt
If it’s just “boots on the ground” and on a vessel in the “inland waters” — then what about “in the air on an ordered flight that supports the boots on the ground?”
Besides, he certainly had his boots on the ground when he was captured while serving in the military. Doesn’t being a POW count for something, or is this just an attempt by John Kerry to besmirch John McCain?
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