Revising HIV's History

ScienceNOW Daily News ^ | 25 June 2008 | Elizabeth Pennisi

[FormerACLUmember]

The meaningful beginning of the HIV epidemic began with the homosexual rise to power in the mid 1970s.

[Jeff Chandler]

Gay monkeys?

[Jeff Chandler]

The meaningful beginning of the HIV epidemic began with the homosexual rise to power in the mid 1970s.

POWER TO THE POOP HOLE!

[max americana]

(Groan) Now the gays will say “see, AIDS wasn’t born from the gay community in the 70’s..it happened 100 years ago.”

[Arthur McGowan]

And who was President in 1908? Teddy Roosevelt—a Republican! Proof positive: The Republicans engineered HIV to kill black people.

Fortunately, Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, became President in 1913, and put an end to racism. (Except for the racism that was brought back under Republican presidents.)

[neverdem]

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[SatinDoll]

This disease was around a long time before the “gay movement” took off. It has been spread around the world because of two things: interconinental air travel and looser morals.

[weegee]

Damn but Amerikkka has been working on this sh!( a long time.

Has anybody asked Pastor Wright for a personal statement on this scientific finding?

Ought to go great next to his research that shows that man never landed on the moon (and yes he proclaimed it).

[weegee]

Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive, no?

[Figment]

If it’s contained to chimps queers and iv drug abusers, I don’t see the problem

[fella]

The meaningful beginning of the HIV epidemic began with the homosexual rise to power in the mid 1970s.

That's when the shrinks were blackmaled into saying that their sick behavior was normal. just watch how they act when they are showing out and you can see just how sick they are.

Now there some common sense change.

[Arthur McGowan]

And Wilson was a racist fascist. I was joking.

[Soliton]

I have to check Genesis to se on which day viruses were created.

[rmlew]

Wilson was a racist proto-fascist and that is no joke.

[InterceptPoint]

This is simply amazing to me.

These guys are looking deeply into the origins of the HIV virus. Their time would be better spent trying to find where in the vast literature addressing this ubiquitous retrovirus that it is actually shown scientifically that HIV is the cause of AIDS.

But of course that would be a waste of time also, because that proof is not to be found in the scientific literature. It is just "a truth" that we are supposed to accept because "everyone knows it is so".

[LS]

I've done some pretty extensive (for a non MD) research on this, and I'm still baffled. I corresponded with Tom Bethell of the Hoover Institution, who adheres to the school that says there is no such thing as "AIDs"---or, more accurately, that AIDs is a medically-concocted term to describe other diseases accompanied by a HIV marker, which, in their view, is only a passenger or fellow traveler. Hence the abundant evidence (Magic Johnson, for example) that everyone with HIV does not show AIDs. This is the Peter Duesberg theory. Duesberg has long been thought of as "out there" and crazy, but recently a lot of studies (certainly not the majority) have added some credence to his theory.

However, not long ago I watched a documentary based on a book by Peter Hooper, a journalist who has followed AIDs for as long as it's been around. His investigations showed a very strong correlation between the outbreak of AIDs and the introduction of one specific type of oral polio vaccine in the late 1950s. This vaccine used chimpanzee (not green monkey) tissue that did contain SIV, and he argues---with incredible levels of medical sophistication---that the outbreak in Africa of AIDs correlates perfectly with the application of this, but only this, particular OPV.

Around 2000, Hooper's charges grew so intense and the reaction so serious that there was a medical panel in Britain set up to examine them. Nothing was concluded, but one of the witnesses who introduced the vaccine was caught in a bold-faced lie when he said he had never used chimpanzees at all, yet there are witnesses on record and photographic/film evidence of chimpanzees at the facility being tested, killed, and cut up for their kidneys.

According to Hooper, once it was "out there," it spread by all the methods we know---sex and drug use, mostly. This was a powerful revision of the "cut hunter"/"sex with monkeys" theory, which I always thought was lame, because AIDs wouldn't have waited until the 20th century to show up.

ONLY Hooper's theory explains the timing of the outbreak in Africa---but only Deusberg's theory explains why some (many?) who have HIV do not have AIDs. They can't both be right. But either would have huge implications for treatment and policy regarding AIDs.

Postscript: Just a few years ago, Africa held a big AIDs conference where, for the first time, the president of South Africa insisted that the Deusberg people at least be permitted to have equal time.

[LS]

Viruses were “created” the day Adam ate the apple. They were always here, only man was not affected by them.

[DouglasKC]

Her analysis also indicates that the virus existed in low levels in humans until the middle of the 20th century. "That matches the rise of population centers," Gemmel explained, suggesting that urbanization around that time paved the way for the AIDS epidemic.

The acceptance and embracement of anal sex between men practicing homosexual behavior is what paved the way for the AIDS epidemic.

[WorkingClassFilth]

. . . used a sophisticated computer program to . . .

This universal phrase can be used without problem in any sort of psuedo-science with a left-tilt agenda.