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Biblical Text-Writing May Have Poisoned Monks
Discovery News ^ | 6-27-2008 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 06/27/2008 3:48:57 PM PDT by blam

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To: blam; SunkenCiv

The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco, available at Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Name-Rose-Everymans-Library-Cloth/dp/0307264890/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214636537&sr=1-1

An excellent murder mystery set in a medieval abbey. Beautifully written. One of my favorites.


21 posted on 06/28/2008 12:07:25 AM PDT by Cincinna
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22 posted on 06/28/2008 3:43:29 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: gorush
Nah, GW died from strep throat, basically.

It was an acute pharyngeal infection. Mercury had zilch to do with it.

EVERYBODY with a fever got calomel (mercurous chloride) because it made you salivate and sweat. The old-fashioned doctors that attended GW were trying to get the "humours" out of his body. A younger physician in attendance tried to suggest a tracheotomy (iirc), but was overruled.

He probably would have died anyway because of the massive infection and lack of antibiotics.

23 posted on 06/28/2008 5:03:39 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Cincinna
It is a good book, though awfully dense. I was a very serious Sherlock Holmes fan back in the day, and it's amusing to see all the little Sherlockian references tucked in here and there.

I wish I had a dollar for everybody who bought it because it was a best-seller, then read 5 pages and parked it on the coffee table . . . very worthwhile but not an easy read.

24 posted on 06/28/2008 5:05:08 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: blam
Neat story.

Leprosy has been around a long time. I wonder if this is just a variant form.

Wonder how much mercury you have to be carrying around before you are symptomatic?

25 posted on 06/28/2008 5:07:27 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: blam

incunabulum: interesting word. it may be mis-used in this context since it appears to only refer to printed, not handwritten documents:

incunabulum is a book, single sheet, or image that was printed — not handwritten — before the year 1501 in Europe.


26 posted on 06/28/2008 5:36:27 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: The KG9 Kid

Great historical murder mystery “name of the rose” set in a monastery in the Middle Ages.

Movie had Sean Connery as the churchman/detective who solves the case.


27 posted on 06/28/2008 7:20:36 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Where did you get the DVD? I've wanted it for a long time, but it's a German locale encoding.

Netflix has it but, as yours, it is in German with English subtitles. I plugged the title in eBay and got a number of hits that show DVDs in English, so if you're not in eBay, you ought to be able to find them at other sellers.

BTW, appreciated the subtle clue in your original post.

And, the article is another example of life imitating art even the the art came later.

28 posted on 06/28/2008 7:40:24 AM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: blam

Sucks to be a rubicator.


29 posted on 06/28/2008 8:20:14 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: The KG9 Kid; All; y'all; no one in particular
Didn’t I read an Umberto Eco novel about this years ago?

Close. Name of the Rose.

Won't spoil it for those who haven't yet read it.

I highly recommend reading (or listening) to it to anyone who hasn't done so yet.

30 posted on 06/28/2008 8:24:26 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: tickmeister
How come I ain’t dead?

What makes you sure you aren't?

Look at the candidates and tell me you aren't in Hell...

31 posted on 06/28/2008 8:26:13 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: tet68

Wow.

You are a god!


32 posted on 06/28/2008 8:27:24 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I am neither a doctor nor have I played one since I was 3 or 4. I got my information from Thomas Hager’s “Demon Under the Microscope”. He has a master’s degree in medical microbiology and immunology. He stated in the book that GW was treated with massive doses of Mercury and that it may have been responsible for worsening his condition, but you may be right.


33 posted on 06/28/2008 9:51:33 AM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: vietvet67

LOL


34 posted on 06/28/2008 9:56:36 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: blam

Powdered cinnabar

35 posted on 06/28/2008 10:00:07 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: AnAmericanMother
The blood letting didn't help GW much either.
36 posted on 06/28/2008 10:04:34 AM PDT by 4yearlurker ("Put Watts into 'em! Give 'em Watts boys!" -Rev. James Caldwell-1775. A Patriot.)
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To: ninonitti
But did it cause an erection that lasted for more than 4 hours?

I don't know the answer to that one, but my guess is that if it did, one might be able to use it as a thermometer. :-D

37 posted on 06/28/2008 10:53:54 AM PDT by P H Lewis (One of the fundamentals of democracy is knowing where to place your machine gun. - Foggy)
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To: gorush
I'm not a doctor OR a microbiologist, but my undergraduate degree was in history and I wrote my thesis on the American Civil War. So I come at it from the historical angle -- and medicine unfortunately didn't improve very much from GW's time to the Civil War.

The mercury was SOP in those days. Calomel was the usual vehicle, and if that killed you quick, everybody would have been dead, because people took it like aspirin. I have my gg grandfather's Civil War letters, he took the stuff all the time. If you OD'd on it, it could loosen your teeth, and eventually you'd get hand tremors.

In other words, I'm sure it didn't do you any good over the long haul, but it didn't kill you quick. GW got sick and was dead in less than three days, iirc he caught cold riding in a cold rain.

38 posted on 06/28/2008 11:34:05 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: 4yearlurker
Bloodletting is not entirely the mumbo-jumbo it's made out to be, it has value in certain cases.

But drawing half the blood volume of an elderly man was NOT a good idea (even by the standards of the time)! GW was a strong believer in bloodletting and urged his physicians to remove more blood (sometimes it's the doctor's responsibility to ignore his patient). It certainly made him weaker, but the acute pharyngitis is probably still what killed him.

39 posted on 06/28/2008 11:40:30 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: null and void

Oh very good.

Sucks to be a rubicator.

I heard there was going to be a rubicator convention,
but decided to cross the Rubi-Con later.

It bites to be a masticating ruminant.


40 posted on 06/28/2008 11:44:17 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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