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Bridegroom Gabriel Watson charged with wife's scuba-dive murder
The Times ^ | June 21, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 06/21/2008 7:04:12 AM PDT by driftdiver

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To: sam_paine

“Well, every sport is safe as long as nothing goes wrong.”

I disagree, things can and do go wrong in diving. If you’re following the rules you are not likely to get hurt. A big part is diving within your experience level.

“But what happens when the boat driver doesn’t show to pick you up where you expect!”

Dive with a reputable driver first and foremost. Second I suck air so bad I don’t usually have worries about being the last back on board. :)

The worst boat i was on was a night dive. His light broke after we went in the water. Made it kinda tough finding the boat after surfacing.

Diving is more risky than watching TV, a lot more fun too.


41 posted on 06/21/2008 8:04:32 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: sam_paine; LongElegantLegs

I think it was probably statements made by others onboard the boat that finally brought this into the courtroom.

“Her father says he began to doubt his former son-in-law after a conversation with another diver on the same trip. “After I relayed to him what I was told he told me that didn’t happen. And told me all the reasons why it didn’t happen,” he says.”

This came out in a televised interview I saw a short time ago with 2 older very experienced divers (at least one an instructor for many yrs, 1 may have been an ex-navy diver) on the trip. They felt the husband was lying from the beginning because his account of what happened didn’t make sense and he changed his story when they questioned him on the boat. When they got back home, they were troubled and disturbed and contacted Tina’s father. I don’t think that “story line concocted by the police is that the guy “turned off the air supply of his wife until she was dead, or nearly dead, then turned it back on and let her sink to the seabed.”” was concocted by the police, but was put together by the two older divers.

Wish I could remember more of the details from the show, but the 2 older gentlemen were very confident and convincing.


42 posted on 06/21/2008 8:08:23 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists)
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To: originalbuckeye; driftdiver
Look at the picture. Her arms are outstretched. She looks like she was trying to grab onto something.

Sorry buckeye, I don't know if you dive or not, but in a wetsuit at rest your arms float. She's not locked in some panic reach. She looks passed-out or dead, to me.

And what of the picture? The photo incidentally caught the rescue diver behind the intended subject of the photo. The subject and the photographer are noted in the caption to have "unwittingly" captured the moment in the background.

Had the photographer noticed any of the event at all wouldn't he have taken several snaps of her struggling against her killer who was trying to turn her tank off? Wouldn't anyone have noticed---OR HELPED???

Am I suspicious, hell yes!

She was in over her head in a dangerous sport, she panicked, her cowardly new husband panicked, too, she died, parents want blood.

Makes a lot more sense than some made-for-media-news cobbbled up murder mystery.

43 posted on 06/21/2008 8:10:14 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: driftdiver

They don’t actually say much about evidence in the story.
A motive perhaps, but they don’t spell out much more than that.


44 posted on 06/21/2008 8:13:37 AM PDT by adversarial (the pros and cons of voting for)
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To: sam_paine

After we watched the show, my husband and I looked at each other in disbelief because there was no evidence. NONE. The parents are keeping this going. I feel their pain, but unless there’s a smoking gun..this guy will walk.


45 posted on 06/21/2008 8:13:43 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Disturbin
“Despite his training, he told police that he decided to go for help rather than attempt to rescue his wife.”

Ah, the ole Ted Kennedy defense.

Yup.

46 posted on 06/21/2008 8:16:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: sam_paine

I’m not surprised the guy with the camera failed to notice. There are a ton of things going on underwater and you get very task loaded. Taking a picture he was probably only seeing the subject of his picture.

Depends on his experience of course but its easy to get tunnel vision and miss a lot of stuff.

If the other divers were suspicious I agree he should be charged and serve jail. If for nothing else then getting his new wife into trouble and then failing to help her.


47 posted on 06/21/2008 8:17:45 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
things can and do go wrong in diving. If you’re following the rules you are not likely to get hurt.

Haha! You must live farther away from Murphy than I do! If one thing goes wrong for me, usually the recovery fix makes it worse!

A big part is diving within your experience level.

Exactly. This girl was, pardon the gallows pun, in over her head.

I think the guy panicked and let his new wife die. I think he MIGHT have even been horsing around (looks really young and stupid!) and ended up getting his wife killed. But he would have to be extremely and immensely stupid to premeditate a murder in a large group dive with cameras.

48 posted on 06/21/2008 8:18:18 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Hildy

If she were my daughter I would probably push as well. Whether it was murder or not he got their daughter killed.


49 posted on 06/21/2008 8:19:06 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver; Hildy
he should be charged and serve jail.

Well, thankfully that's not how the American or Austrlian system works.

Gotta have evidence.

If the prosecutor can't put together a conviction with the "navy" diver and other experienced potential witnesses on the boat, without all the hearsay of a distressed father-in-law, then he must walk.

50 posted on 06/21/2008 8:22:11 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: driftdiver

People will sometimes spit out thier regulator when they panic and bolt to the surface. If they are too deep,bad scene. I was taught to try to get the regulator back into thier mouth while inflating thier BC for a controled asscent to the surface. For those who aren’t experienced the rescurer should behind the panicing diver when attempting a rescue.


51 posted on 06/21/2008 8:22:17 AM PDT by painter (If you like $4/gal, Thank democrats in Congress!)
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To: sam_paine

“Haha! You must live farther away from Murphy than I do! If one thing goes wrong for me, usually the recovery fix makes it worse!”

Every single time I’ve had trouble it was because I failed to follow one of the rules. Failing to weight myself properly, failing to manage my buoyancy, ogling the girls in bikinis too much.


52 posted on 06/21/2008 8:24:18 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: sam_paine
No, I'm not a diver. I tried to learn in the swimming pool at my college. I couldn’t trust the equipment so I had to drop the class. The details are very suspicious. Especially that the guy changed his story. Does the term ‘rescue diver’ not mean he was trained to help people in her situation? That alone would cause me to believe in his culpability.
53 posted on 06/21/2008 8:26:29 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: driftdiver

I can get panicky just thinking about diving. Poor woman.


54 posted on 06/21/2008 8:26:40 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: sam_paine

It would seem like...if you wanted to murder your wife....you’d do it on home territory in Bama....and not in Australia. Plus you would have made the insurance part about the scheme absolutely sure, and worth the effort. For some reason, I don’t buy into this entire story. I have my doubts. The parents want the guy in prison...thats for sure.

The one thing I’ve learned from watching the various murders over the past ten years....its always better if no body is ever found.


55 posted on 06/21/2008 8:29:41 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: mass55th

One of my friends who was going through a divorce told me ‘nothing is worse than being lonely inside of a marriage’. Yes, better to live without marriage than be miserable with it.


56 posted on 06/21/2008 8:29:58 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: sam_paine

Is hearsay admissible in Aus? What the bride told daddy, to be relevant, must be the truth, and is thus hearsay, and inadmissible here and in the UK. Without this, the state has no case.


57 posted on 06/21/2008 8:29:58 AM PDT by uscabjd ( a)
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To: driftdiver

I covered this case on my Blog below...you have to scroll down...

http://patfish.blogspot.com/2007/11/true-crime-natalee-holloway-case-will.html

This is a most audacious crime, just tragic.

This guy actually CUT OFF his wife’s air supply while on a commercial dive with a whole bunch of people all around!

Then he said he couldn’t save her even though he’s certified in doing that exact thing.

He kept changing his story after checking the tides on the Internet versus what he told the cops.

This case had to be investigated by Australia but American cops got involved.

A young bride just boom, sniffed a life away by an asshole of the highest order.

Thank God he’s been charged and I hope he gets the death penalty so help me.


58 posted on 06/21/2008 8:33:31 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: driftdiver

The guy’s a moron to try this in Australia. If he pulled this off in Belize or some other 3rd world country he’s be home free


59 posted on 06/21/2008 8:35:34 AM PDT by dennisw (We have an idiocracy not a democracy)
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To: Hildy

Should we allow a lousy man to kill his wife according to your notion?

Women who marry lousy men OUGHT TO DIE!

Yeah, that’s the ticket.

This guy did this....believe it.


60 posted on 06/21/2008 8:35:58 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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