Posted on 06/20/2008 8:12:50 AM PDT by kellynla
Charming
A year or so more of war and the Holocaust would have “never happened”.
Ever read “Fatherland”?
You have no idea...
Expect a Pat Buchanan Article called “The Really, Really Unnecessary War”, in which he blames Churchill for getting all those poor German and Russian soldiers killed. The British swine.
This was WFB's conclusion in that epic issue of NR (it was Joe Sobran he determined to be truly anti-semetic). However, I think his tendency to be controversial where this topic is concerned stems as much from a compulsion to stick his thumb in his critics eyes. And of course make a few bucks in the process.
Too bad 'cause he undermines his own positions on other topics where his powers of persuation might do some good.
PAt is either extremely ignorant or a revisionist liar who assumes his readers to be ignorant. He also forgot the Austro-Prussian war.
I am not going to deny that there were self-hating former Jews in the Communist movement. There were far to meany, and I hope taht they are all buring in hell. However the point is taht they hated Jews and Judaism and their purported Jewishness was only an excuse from the Antisemites.
I remember when Sobran was writing for NR. He was a great writer. I understand, sadly, he’s a very bad lush. I’m not sure why he’s an anti-semite. I wonder if guys like him and Buchanan just think they’re so smart they can prove anything controversial. And, maybe, because the number of Paleocon Jews is so small they’re just mad at all Jews. I don’t know. But the bottom line for me on Pat is it this. Indifference to anti-semitism is unacceptable, and Pat surely is willing to cause a lot of pain with his crazy theories about Hitler. It’s hardly a Christian feeling he has for the Jews any time he discuss them and their suffering. In fact, he seems to think Holocaust has all been a hoot he can profit from.
You overlooked Germany’s resumption of unrestricted submarine warfare against our ships. But Pat probably didn’t mind that they were killing Americans on ships and sink our cargo. After all, the Kaiser had to defend himself. And President Wilson, Pat would reason, was a Democrat, and in Pat’s mind possibly a Jew.
Why should we want a European Army? The EU/Eurabia is the instrument of destroying European cultures.
What? Lieberman is talking about the non-Israeli Arabs of the disputed territories, not Israel-Arab citizens of Israel. Get some knowledge.
Ooh, a "palaeo" troll got banned.
Sounded like he thought Yassir Arafat and the PLO were the most anti-Soviet forces in the entire universe, didn't he?
This fact is so often overlooked in all the "Jewish international banker" nonsense one reads and hears. It should be shouted from the housetops!
The Germans put Lenin in Russia so he could take power and pull Russia out of the war, enabling Germany to fight a one front war in the west. Strange that so many "anti-Communists" are Germanolators.
Joe Sobran makes Pat Buchanan sound like Abe Foxman (granted, that's not a good thing). And he's another one of those American "palaeos" who have latched on to anarcho-libertarianism despite the fact that his European counterparts were very, very statist.
And, maybe, because the number of Paleocon Jews is so small they’re just mad at all Jews.
Actually, there are two kinds of Jewish "palaeos" and there are lots of both of them. Unfortunately, since these two groups are Orthodox Jews and rightwing Zionists, our "palaeos" don't like them.
All we can do is look at the spirit of the times and say things like, perhaps, "What is the proper treatment of the loser by the victor? Punishment, rehabilitation, or something else?" "Was the Shoah inevitable, since anti-Semitism is an old and deeply rooted hatred, or could Germany have been so treated during the interregnum that a Hitler never would have arisen?"
I have read this book twice, and I see not an iota of anti-Semitism in it. Buchanan seems, rather, to mourn the Holocaust and to be looking for ways we could have avoided it. The review I read in the New York Sun seemed to be dragging in anti-Semitism from his other writings and his views on immigration to make him out to be a racist. I have seen plenty of anti-Semitic quotes from Buchanan, but nothing in this book.
It is the historical might-have-been nature of the argument that is all wrong, the lack of any stepping back and looking at the larger questions. Mistakes of the past can be used to learn from in the present, but reconstructing what could have been is nothing but a game that can never have a definitive answer and so tells us nothing.
Rabbi Antelman sounds like a whackjob, and I have never heard of anyone else who shares these bizarre opinions. BTW is he the same guy who registered patents and claims to have a cure for AIDS?
I do not know.
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