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MILITARY: Marine Corps appealing dismissal ruling for Chessani
North County Times ^ | June 18, 2008 | MARK WALKER

Posted on 06/18/2008 7:22:37 PM PDT by RedRover

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To: Red Steel

Now would be a very good time.


41 posted on 06/18/2008 8:20:03 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

Sullivan is pathetic. It’s one thing to be a loser, but another thing to be a crybaby about it.


42 posted on 06/18/2008 8:21:03 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: tarheelswamprat
It's a shame these men have had to serve under a Commander-in-Chief who lacked the courage and integrity to step up and defend those under his command...

The last thing the President and on down the chain of command wants to give is the appearance of a cover up, even if the charges are total BS like they are here. I do believe if needed, President Bush would step in at the appropriate time. Right now he's let the legal system do it's job and up till now it's worked with this one.

43 posted on 06/18/2008 8:21:23 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: tarheelswamprat
It's a shame these men have had to serve under a Commander-in-Chief who lacked the courage and integrity to step up and defend those under his command...

That sounds very familiar....
BUMP!

44 posted on 06/18/2008 8:23:16 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover
"The two dozen Iraqi noncombatants were shot by a squad from the regiment's Kilo Company as it searched houses for those responsible for a roadside bombing and subsequent small arms fire the morning of Nov. 19, 2005."

Haven't read everything about the case from this paper but I thought they were fairly balanced. This is an outright lie.

45 posted on 06/18/2008 8:23:16 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: tarheelswamprat

I forgot to add that if the prosecutors keep this malarkey going it could eventually end up in the President’s hands through the legal system. If it does and he doesn’t smack down the people who are attacking our troops hard then I’ll agree with you.


46 posted on 06/18/2008 8:27:14 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Eagles6
Haven't read everything about the case from this paper but I thought they were fairly balanced. This is an outright lie.

Yes it is. Some of the NCT writers are very good, and some - - like Mark Walker - - are sloppy scrubs, fresh out of the basement of some Daily Collegian somewhere.

47 posted on 06/18/2008 8:27:27 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jazusamo
Did you see the segment Laura Ingraham did today on her new FoxNews show, This Just In I think is the name? It's all I caught on FN today, but she did well.

I'm off, brother, had a long day with other matters. I'll catch ya tomorrow! :-)

48 posted on 06/18/2008 8:27:57 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: RedRover
*Groans and bangs head against monitor*

Prolonging the idiocy.........

49 posted on 06/18/2008 8:28:00 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Eagles6

You’re right, it is an outright lie.

The coverage has been fairly legit at the NC Times but as these hearings and now court-martials have strung out Mark Walker has made some glaring mistakes, some so glaring you wonder if it was a mistake on his part such as this one.


50 posted on 06/18/2008 8:29:06 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Cicero

Wonder how much THIS decision plays into all this...

In stunning reversal, a federal auditing agency said today that a $40-billion Air Force contract awarded to Northrop Grumman Corp. was flawed and recommended that the Pentagon reopen the competition for what is expected to be the biggest defense procurement for at least a decade.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fi-tanker19-2008jun19,0,4394525.story

Remember the ties between Murtha - Northrop Grumman and Sec Navy Winters...


51 posted on 06/18/2008 8:30:02 PM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: smoothsailing

Yes, I saw it and FRmailed a link to you on the video at Fox News, it was a great segment.

Talk atcha tomorrow.


52 posted on 06/18/2008 8:30:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover
Why, yes, BlackFive has some coverage of the Haditha Marines, and links to the Defend our Marines site, as well as the Thomas More Law Center And then there was one.....

I found this paragragh interesting....

The greatest tragedy of this whole dark chapter in the war against radical Islamism is that the chain of command that has it's pictures hanging on the walls of these units failed to do in this case the most basic job that leaders must do; defend their soldiers. If you can't do that, then you are not a leader.
53 posted on 06/18/2008 8:32:48 PM PDT by Girlene (CONGRATULATIONS, LT COL CHESSANI!)
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To: jazusamo
From what I gather this may be a case of bad journalism in that the appeal may be automatic or at least standard operating procedure in cases like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy-Marine_Corps_Court_of_Criminal_Appeal

http://www.jag.navy.mil/FieldOffices/NMCCA.htm

54 posted on 06/18/2008 8:39:17 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Girlene

That’s what bothers me.

Semper Fi. The Marines stand by their fellow Marines. You don’t abandon a fellow Marine.

But I suspect that Murtha and others are threatening to defund vital programs and really damage the Corps if the top brass don’t play ball, abusing their political power and putting them between a rock and a hard place.


55 posted on 06/18/2008 8:41:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Yes correct. There is an automatic appeal process in the military


56 posted on 06/18/2008 8:44:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Right now he's let the legal system do it's job and up till now it's worked with this one.

Is that a joke?

Eight Marines and their families have endured a very sick, very expensive nightmare for over two years, all because military and civilian commanders right on up the chain of command ran like cowards from a frigging TIME Magazine story that was planted by insurgent propagandists with the help of an incompetent, deer-in-the-headlights "reporter". And you think the "legal system worked"?? Gimme a break.

Bush handed the prosecution of the war on terror over to a pack of ACLU lawyers and soft, military political hacks, who place more importance on "battlefield ethics", "laws of war", and "rules of engagement" than they do on the lives of the young men who actually have to make split-second, life and death decisions. Congratulations, Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush. Nice job.

57 posted on 06/18/2008 8:44:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: pissant
I'd be willing to bet you a beer that Murtha has bleeding hemorrhoids by now.
58 posted on 06/18/2008 8:45:23 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I'm far from knowledgeable on military law but this was written about by numerous journalists yesterday as far as a possible appeal.

The judge in this case gave the prosecution 72 hours to inform him of an intended appeal.

This isn't an appeal on a verdict of a jury panel but an appeal on a motion to dismiss charges due to the appearance of UCI.

I haven't read anywhere that this would call for an automatic appeal especially when this judges ruling is so apparently correct.

59 posted on 06/18/2008 8:48:07 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: tarheelswamprat

I resent the Remark that Bush should have stopped this because that would have been as grievous as command influence as has happened here perhaps maybe even more so.

It should be noted that Nixon Pardoned Lt. Caley before he left office when he too could have easily have prevented his Court Martial.

Just it is President Bush responsibility to send young men and women to their deaths in a war it is also his responsibility to ensure that Military Justice is done by the letter of the law, meaning he cannot and must not interfere with the proceedings until they have run their course.


60 posted on 06/18/2008 8:52:53 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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