Posted on 06/15/2008 7:11:48 AM PDT by BerniesFriend
Do the idiots who wrote this article actually believe that Humphrey would have carried Mississippi, Alabama, and the other deep south states if the 1968 election had been a straight Nixon vs. Humphrey race? Wallace kept Nixon from winning by a wider margin, he didn't cause Humphrey to lose.
>>>>What world are you in? Obama may be the weakest presidential candidate in history.
Huh? The Rats have won elections with Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.
The benchmarks they are using with Obama as a candidate, are not the benchmarks that you would use as a conservative.
Don’t “most historians” also think President Bush is the worst president EVER? Who cares.
What a laughable notion... Since Harry Truman, Americans have voted for one outwardly liberal President (Jimmah Carter) and even he didn’t fully run as a liberal and the fact that he was a Southerner helped enormously.
Kennedy ran as a conservative, Johnson won because of Kennedy Sympathy, Carter also won (and barley) because of Watergate, Clinton won because of Perot.
Americans are not pining for a liberal to run their country and never have been, and despite the liberal media and their attempt to paint the United States as all Democrat because they have more registered voters. The fact is Americans usually prefer somebody more conservative in charge and always have.
The liberals and anti-war movements tried their best and with a large amount of help from the big three networks and just about every liberal rag (NT Times, Wash Post, LA Times, etc.) to unseat Nixon in 1972. The result was the largest margin of victory by any President in the history of the United States.
The United States in currently occupying two former enemy countries, they have another enemy country attempting to make a Nuclear weapon, they are also at war against Islamic extremist and the last thing they want or need running the White House is an outwardly liberal anti-war candidate.
You want to know about history... Just ask the last liberal anti-war candidate to run in the United States about history... Mr. George McGovern, the loser to Nixon in 1972.
McCain is a deeply flawed candidate. After his speech to La Raza in August, his support from Reps will decline even further. You can't out Democrat a Democrat. The contrast of the young, biracial stud against the oldest man ever nominated for the Presidency will be striking. It will be change versus the status quo, the past versus the future. And the difference in money will be enormous. McCain is going to take many Reps down ballot with him.
“From Audacity of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’ ~ BO “
I couldn’t believe he said something so outrageous, so I looked it up and it seems like the quote was doctored.
Well, actually the approval rating is over twice as low as the President's, but let's just gloss over that for the purposes of this MSM propaganda piece.
Liberals keep deluding themselves every election season until they get their rear ends whooped after actual votes are cast. Didn’t they say the same thing about Monsieur Jean Francois Kerrie (who visited Vietnam during the war) ? With non stop 24/7 footages of burning cars, bodies, dead US soldiers, it should have been a landslide for Kerry.
It’s a good thing the next President of The United States isn’t being elected by “historians”, whatever those are.
>>>>I want lots of debates. We should demand them.
Newt proposed one-on-one debates along the lines of Lincoln-Douglas 1 1/2 years ago. He even did two himself as a kind of model (one with Mario Cuomo, one with John Kerry).
The major reason Newt never appeared in the Republican debates is that he was repelled by the circus-like nature of them. For a brief period he was spitting bullets of contempt every time he discussed those debates in public.
Gore won the popular vote and Kerry came very close to winning against an incumbent wartime president during good economic times. This will be more like Goldwater versus LBJ or Bush 41 or Dole versus Clinton.
One would think that if Mr. Lichtman's electoral forecasting models were so accurate, he might have spared himself the humiliation of running in a senate primary race where he ended up with 1% of the vote in 2006.
Yep! We have two candidates who are unelectable. McCain won because he took a bunch of winner-take-all primaries with like 30% of the vote when there were multiple candidates in the race. Obama took an early lead over Hillary when no one knew anything about him, and because she’s so unpopular. By the time the truth came out about Obama (i.e., that he’s a racist, Marxist, elitist fraud surrounded by crooks) his lead was insurmountable. Even so, Hillary staged something of a comeback and was winning more primaries by the end of the season. She fell just short of pulling off a victory.
I’m betting on McCain. He’ll lose a lot of right-wingers (like me) who will vote third party or write someone in, but that’ll be more than made up by moderate, white, working class Dems abandoning the Obamination.
I can see how they’d say that McCain doesn’t have a chance given Bush’s unpopularity (thanks, media for all the distortions) the price of gas, the war dragging on longer than we thought. BUT, Obama is a naive, inexperienced, possible secret Muslim who went to a church that is anti-American and race baiting. Obama is really a horrible candidate - he can do one thing and that’s read a speech. So how do the historians figure in all the hot buttons for Obama? At least with McCain we know what we’re getting.
Ever wonder who these dolts are who write revisionist history?
Ridiculous...and leftist propaganda....per usual.
OK. Sure. We can take this guys analysis to the bank.
Allan Lichtman recently published a history of the conservative movement entitled White Protestant Nation (Atlantic Monthly Press, 2008). While I haven't had time to read the book, I have looked it over, and it seems to have been well-researched. However, Lichtman seems to be arguing that conservatism is essentially a white Protestant movement, a thesis with which most conservatives would vehemently disagree.
That's an interesting point and it could make an interesting "resolved" issue for debate. Roman Catholics are GENERALLY simultaneously morally conservative yet socially liberal.
Americans GENERALLY practice what is convenient. American priests and cardinals will grant Communion to pro-abortion politicians. It would start a radical sea change in the American zeitgeist if these same Catholic elites who protest the war, took the action of rejecting Communion to pro-abortion people.
BTW, Lichtman is an MSM, liberal hack masquerading as an historian.
“McCain shouldn’t win it,” said presidential historian Joan Hoff, a professor at Montana State University and former president of the Center for the Study of the Presidency. She compared McCain’s prospects to those of Hubert Humphrey, whose 1968 loss to Richard Nixon resulted in large part from the unpopularity of sitting Democratic president Lyndon Johnson.I guess they completely discount the chaos surrounding the Democrat nomination, the Chicago Convention protests, the intense split between the extremist McCarthyites, McGovernites and the old-line Humphrey Democrats. Those minor distractions, of course, were completely irrelevant...it all had to do with Johnson...They must be giving out doctorates of history like toilet paper.
Step away from the computer and go for a walk or something.
BS. Comparing the economy of today to a full blown depression is ridiculous.
“His system gives McCain a score on par with Jimmy Carter’s in 1980.”
Pretty lousy system he has there. First Carter was the incumbent, inept President during a bad economic period. No comparison.
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