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Boumediene-Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Scalia- DISSENT (on Gitmo ruling)
Bench Memos at National Review ^ | 12 June 2008 | Ed Whelan

Posted on 06/12/2008 1:04:44 PM PDT by SE Mom

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To: Radix
"We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts -
not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
[--Abraham Lincoln, Political debates between Lincoln and Douglas, 1858]
61 posted on 06/12/2008 3:16:02 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Earthdweller; Radix; StormEye
"Every other nation is far worse off."

You mean just like McCain is less worse compared to Obama, so the conservative base should suck it up and vote for McCain because Obama is so much worse.

Like that?

62 posted on 06/12/2008 3:24:17 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
Come on..you can take a few bruises so as not to get annihilated..can't you?Or do you have some kind of death wish or something?
63 posted on 06/12/2008 3:28:58 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: SE Mom

Three equal branches indeed....then let the judicial branmch enforce its own rulings instead of reigning supreme over the other two branches.


64 posted on 06/12/2008 3:36:14 PM PDT by Postman
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To: Earthdweller
Pleased to see you got the point.

The standard is how today's representative government in America measures up to what we used to have and whether today's passes constitutional muster, not how it compares to that of foreign nations.

65 posted on 06/12/2008 3:39:38 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Wallace T.

I forget the specifics but I believe that Congress, since 2000, limited the jurisdiction of the USSC but that the Court did an end run and ignored Congress.


66 posted on 06/12/2008 3:40:21 PM PDT by Postman
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To: Czar

I think that might be on the way and I hope they take no prisoners


67 posted on 06/12/2008 3:41:45 PM PDT by Postman
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To: SE Mom

At the risk of sounding shallow, all I need to know is which way Thomas voted to know my opinion. He dissented, so I don’t need to read the opinions.


68 posted on 06/12/2008 3:42:10 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Postman

There are many reasons why we find ourselves about to reach a point once felt to be unthinkable. Take a look at the three losers the powers-that-be scammed up to be presidential candidates—not one even remotely fit for the office. Representative government? Please... Just one example.


69 posted on 06/12/2008 3:59:31 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
Today people migrate quickly, converse through Internet, by global phone and bring their ideas with them. If the entire block is dancing to rock music..take note, your children will as well. The children can change the constitution. Never forget that. The goal is for them to deny that change so that they will remain free.

More than ever, the activities of foreign nations can not be ignored. That is not to say that we must do what they do but global trends will import their force. Socialism and the world workers party is alive and well on the global front in huge mass. To ignore this would be folly.

The slow boil of Canada's citizens into slavery should send shivers down your spine. The heat has been turned up of late.

We cannot afford one year for the advancment of socialism..let alone four. I would take a moderate over a marxist any day of the week. There are crooks in our own party that need to be purged but we don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water.

70 posted on 06/12/2008 4:03:23 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: SE Mom

Let’s say it together, ‘Illegal combatants.’

Where is THAT argument, in favor of indefinite detainment?

If you look at the Geneva Convention, it requires: combatants give name, rank & serial number, that combatants where uniforms in conflicts, etc.

These folks are illegal combatants. I’m sure the tango’s are cheering, today.


71 posted on 06/12/2008 4:20:06 PM PDT by 4Liberty ("Racist!" vs. "Sexist!" at Dem Con 08 Denver)
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To: Czar

Unthinkable and frightening but......


72 posted on 06/12/2008 4:28:44 PM PDT by Postman
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To: Earthdweller; joanie-f
"The children can change the constitution...The goal is for them to deny that change so that they will remain free."

The Marxists and Socialists which have burrowed deep into our schools ensure more generations of dumbed down voters who have been taught little about the founders who established this wonderful country. Take a look at today's voters and you will see what I mean -- a lying traitor like John F'n Kerry is able to garner 49% of the vote...

"To ignore this would be folly."

And to accord it more attention than it deserves would be far bigger folly...as do various American hack politicians and elitists in black robes.

"The slow boil of Canada's citizens into slavery should send shivers down your spine."

Canada is a sovereign nation. They can do what they want. What should send shivers down your spine is the NWO concept of the SPP/NAU. How would you like the notion of no sovereignty, no borders, and a conjoined Canada, Mexico and the United States? As you say, "The heat has been turned up of late." Indeed it has.

"I would take a moderate over a marxist any day of the week."

You settle too easily; a "moderate" can't make up his mind and therefore stands for nothing. Generations of following the "least worse" approach is what has brought us to our present sad dilemma. By the way, McCain is no "moderate" should you be laboring under that illusion. No, we can no longer pretend there are merely a few shades of difference--it's far more dramatic than that.

"There are crooks in our own party that need to be purged..."

The real crooks, sooner or later, are always caught. They're not the ones I worry about. I am far more concerned about two-faced weasels like McCain who, once in office, will attempt to lead the United States in a direction no true conservative patriot could possibly stomach.

"...but we don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water."

We do once the baby is no longer sustainable.

Representative government? Once long ago, but mostly a memory today.

73 posted on 06/12/2008 4:38:47 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
So why do you bother to give your opinion here? Why don't you just take your gun to a cave with a beverage and wait for Armageddon? All you are doing is discouraging anyone who still has any fight left. McCain can be maintained by public opinion. Obama can not.
74 posted on 06/12/2008 4:44:55 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Czar

As an addendum.....we have reached the tipping point where we have in fact ceded authority to one man/woman on the USSC to decide the gravest matters for the entire nation...one man/woman appointed - not elected - for life....virtually impossible to remove from office....free, with no recourse, to continue in office for LIFE as if no Justice is subject to the mental and physical effects of time and aging. This is wrong. It is tyranny.


75 posted on 06/12/2008 4:44:56 PM PDT by Postman
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To: Blackyce

It’s breathtaking isn’t it?


76 posted on 06/12/2008 5:10:50 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Political Junkie Too

No- but it might mena that illegal aliens from Mexico can now sieze OUR land under Kelo- after all, precedent is now set giving “illegal” a whole new meaning...


77 posted on 06/12/2008 5:14:25 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Earthdweller
"So why do you bother to give your opinion here?"

I like giving my opinion here, and have been doing so for quite a long time. I believe it to be worthwhile if my words manage to cause others to think about where we are, really are, today, and where our political hacks intend to take us. Look around you. Wake up. It isn't all that difficult to figure out.

"Why don't you just take your gun to a cave with a beverage and wait for Armageddon?"

Now, now...

"All you are doing is discouraging anyone who still has any fight left."

I doubt it. The real fighters aren't discouraged, just angry and getting angrier every day.

"McCain can be maintained by public opinion."

No he can't, as the amnesty issue amply demonstrates. McCain is an arrogant, hot tempered jerk who has been on the wrong side of just about every issue of any importance to the conservative base. Which is why that base wants no part of him.

78 posted on 06/12/2008 5:14:26 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
McCain is a moderate...he is on the wrong side of everyones issue. Maybe if you try helping your fellow conservatives to make their voices heard rather than telling us we are all doomed we can get something done rather than letting the commies just take over.

Ya thinK?

79 posted on 06/12/2008 5:17:14 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Earthdweller

Yikes. I try to be an optimist ... but this ruling is the worst ruling since ... since the LAST awful ruling by a court! (Kelo, gay marriage, ...)


80 posted on 06/12/2008 5:38:22 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - co-bloggers wanted!)
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