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With U.S. in slump, dual citizenship in EU countries attracts Americans
Palm Beach Post ^ | Saturday, June 07, 2008 | ANDREW ABRAMSON

Posted on 06/08/2008 3:25:27 PM PDT by null and void

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Dual citizenship criteria

Ireland: Automatically grants citizenship to the child of an Irish-born citizen. A person can also claim descent based on a grandparent or great-grandparent as long as a grandparent had also claimed descent on or before the date of the person's birth.

Italy: For those born after 1948, citizenship is granted if their father or mother was a citizen at the time of the applicant's birth. Citizenship is also granted under these conditions:

Father is an American and the paternal grandfather was a citizen at the time of the father's birth.

If born after 1948, when the mother is American and the maternal grandfather was an Italian citizen at the time of the mother's birth.

Paternal or maternal grandfather was born in America and the paternal great-grandfather was an Italian citizen at the time of the grandparent's birth.

United Kingdom: Descent based on a grandparent allowable only in exceptional cases.

Greece: Native-born parent or grandparent.

Latvia: Native-born parent.

Cyprus: Father was a citizen.

Holland, Finland, Germany and Norway: Applicant must have been born in wedlock with one parent a citizen, or he can claim descent based only on the mother.

All other European Union countries: A parent was a citizen of the given country. People who can't claim descent can apply after living in the country for a certain number of years.

1 posted on 06/08/2008 3:25:28 PM PDT by null and void
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"With an EU passport, I can live and work in 27 countries,"

"... and in about 15 of them, I can be terrorized by feral Muslims that refuse to assimilate and regard me as a target of jihad!"

2 posted on 06/08/2008 3:33:12 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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All you "dual-citizenship" folks----go----AND STAY THERE!!!
3 posted on 06/08/2008 3:33:28 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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"With an EU passport, I can live and work in 27 countries," said Suzanne Mulvehill of Lake Worth. "With a U.S. passport, I can live and work in one."

Suzanne has a EU passport mostly so she can be a self-important, wine bar snot. Apparently, she doesn't realize that the US is 50 "countries".

4 posted on 06/08/2008 3:34:24 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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How does this dual citizenship work? Can one individual hold the passport of two countries? I thought that was illegal.


5 posted on 06/08/2008 3:34:41 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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DUAL CITIZENSHIPS should be made ILLEGAL for U.S. citizens — and that would solve A LOT of problems for the American citizen and taxpayer.


6 posted on 06/08/2008 3:37:37 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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Something fishy about this. Aside from Ireland, who's cut taxes and has massive incentives for businesses to re-locate, European countries have 10-12% unemployment. Here in America, we only have 5.5%.

I think all the "economy is falling" is just the Lamestream Media helping the Democrats get more seats in Congress.

7 posted on 06/08/2008 3:37:47 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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Ireland: Automatically grants citizenship to the child of an Irish-born citizen. A person can also claim descent based on a grandparent or great-grandparent as long as a grandparent had also claimed descent on or before the date of the person's birth.

It used to be true that one could claim Irish citizenship through a great-grandparent but Ireland changed the law about 20 years ago.Now you can do so through a parent (actually,if either of your parents was an Irish citizen when you were born you're automatically a citizen) or a grandparent.

8 posted on 06/08/2008 3:39:51 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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How does this dual citizenship work? Can one individual hold the passport of two countries? I thought that was illegal.

It used to be illegal but several court decisions have made it legal.These decisions have made it next to impossible for one to lose his/her US citizenship without actually renouncing it.

9 posted on 06/08/2008 3:42:34 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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I’ll gladly have all US liberals go over the pond and stay in Europe. We might take in the few remaining productive and freedom loving Euros in return.


10 posted on 06/08/2008 3:42:58 PM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

what booming european economy? what a crock.
The biggest culture shock will be the “net income” and the high prices in that socialist wonderland.


11 posted on 06/08/2008 3:43:26 PM PDT by americanbychoice3
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To: Wonder Warthog

*******All you “dual-citizenship” folks——go——AND STAY THERE!!*******

And don’t let the American door hit you on the a$$ as you leave!


12 posted on 06/08/2008 3:43:27 PM PDT by GOPologist (A smile can get you further. A smile and a gun can get you much further. ,,(Al Capone))
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This is actually an excellent idea. Democrats get to move to a place where their liberal views will have plenty of company, without polluting our voting booths. This is an idea whose time has come.


13 posted on 06/08/2008 3:43:44 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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She plans to move to Paris, brush up on her French and engross herself in the European business world.


14 posted on 06/08/2008 3:43:44 PM PDT by Spirochete
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With the exception of US/Israeli dual citizenship, our State Department does not officially recognize the concept. It’s not illegal, however, because of the 1967 SCOTUS ruling. As a practical matter, if you hold two passports you have to be careful which one you use when entering a country. If, for example, you hold both a US and an Italian passport and you use the Italian passport to enter Germany and you then get in trouble with the German legal authorities you can’t count on the US embassy to help you out.

It’s also nonsense to say, as did one person in the article, that with US citizenship you can only work in one country (the US). Whether or not you can work legally in a foreign country depends on what kind of visa you enter with. For example, at different times I have worked legally in France and in the UK.


15 posted on 06/08/2008 3:46:05 PM PDT by riverdawg
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Not surprising. We’ll see more of this until some U.S. bureaucrat sees it as “a problem”.

BTW, Cambodia will sell you citizenship as an investor for about $50K, and Malaysia has a quasi-citizenship retirement program for $35K in *invested* funds, meaning the funds must be invested in a Malaysian bank for a couple years, then you regain access to them to start a business or buy a home or etc. At some point in the process you get a Malaysian passport.


16 posted on 06/08/2008 3:46:11 PM PDT by angkor (The Elephant In The Conservative/GOP Living Room isn't RINOs, it'shis The Religionists.)
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Afroyim vs. Rusk decision

Beys Afroyim (1893-1984) was a Jewish artist born as Ephraim Bernstein in Ryki, Poland. In 1912 he immigrated to the United States. In 1926 he became naturalized as a U.S. citizen. In 1950 he moved to Israel. He voted in an Israeli election in 1951. In 1960, Afroyim tried to renew his U.S. passport, but the State Department refused on the ground that he had lost his citizenship by voting in a foreign election. Afroyim sued Dean Rusk in his official capacity as Secretary of State and head of the State Department, which is responsible both for issuing passports and for dealing with loss of citizenship.

17 posted on 06/08/2008 3:46:28 PM PDT by kabar
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I’m like Atty Levine, born in Canada and my father who;s a US citizen, is from Italy.

I went to Italy years ago and the VAT is 20%. Freakin 20% surcharge. Order a pizza in Italy and it will cost you minimum $45 American...that was 3 years ago. Order red wine, and it’s customary to tip the waiter close to 20% as well..just for gratuities, NOT the tax.

No thanks, at least here in America I go to Little Ceasars and get a 12 inch for $5.


18 posted on 06/08/2008 3:47:02 PM PDT by max americana
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Can one individual hold the passport of two countries?

Yes,one can have as many passports as they can qualify for under the citizenship laws of the countries involved.Most western countries (but not all) allow dual/multiple citizenships.Third World-type countries tend not to allow it.

19 posted on 06/08/2008 3:47:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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Usually, there’s an elaborate procedure to surrender one’s old passport at the consulate of the nation of origin, in order to obtain the new passport from the adopted nation.

Having two passports, simultaneously, provides good avenues for criminals.

Imagine a Jehadi dodging the authorities of both nations, with the other’s passport!


20 posted on 06/08/2008 3:48:26 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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