Posted on 06/05/2008 8:32:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Oh, for cryin’ out loud. What a shallow view. Certainly Bush hasn’t been a standard bearer for conservatism in all respects and has made blunders in his presidency, but he’s also racked up some impressive accomplishments such as the partial birth abortion ban, his SCOTUS nominations and keeping this country safe from the islamofascists since 2001.
So I am not biting what the "country clubbers" are giving me to eat. Bite me Republicans is what I say, I am voting for the Libertarian or Constitution party, and don't tell me I am throwing my vote away, what on a liberal republican big government, no tax cut, first amendment violator, amnesty for all illegals, cap and tax senator?
I can’t fault you. Whether or not to vote for McCain is going to be a difficult decision each of us will have to make, and I probably won’t be certain what I’ll do until November.
I have been pretty active in digging up some of the stuff on Obama and spreading it around, to my email list as well as in the forum. He is exceedingly dangerous. McCain isn’t as bad, but perhaps equally dangerous, because he would destroy the two-party system and leave us with no alternative to vote for. And he would be more likely than obama to persuade congress to pass his predictably leftist measures: illegal amnesty, NWO crap, global warming, and all the rest of it.
I don’t really trust him on the war, either. He supported clinton’s war against the Serbs from the beginning, and I wouldn’t put it past him to do what clinton did: get us into more wars ON THE WRONG SIDE.
At least with Obama he would be the enemy we knew, he could be fought, and he would soon reveal himself for what he is.
It’s not an easy or a happy choice, with this slate of candidates.
Pro-life and pro-family are among my bottom lines, and I supported Thompson. He is not an active church-goer, but he was brought up with southern baptist values and—rumors and smears to the contrary—has a solid pro-life record.
Romney is another matter. He not only had problems with his Mormonism, but he was a flipper flopper who pro-life stance was extremely doubtful.
I’m Catholic, but I’d be happy to support a solid pro-life Evangelical. Keep in mind that Ronald Reagan was not a regular church-goer either, and was divorced and re-married; but he had the solid values that counted. Same with Thompson. That’s why NLR supported and endorsed him.
Huckabee managed to smear Thompson, with constant emails to the Evangelicals during the critical primaries accusing him falsely of being pro-abortion. Huckabee is a lying fraud, a snakeoil salesman.
I always said I’d be glad to support Duncan Hunter if his supporters could move him forward. They couldn’t. Thompson had a shot at it, but the perfect evidently drove out the good, once again.
The state parties arrange the primaries, yes. But the DNC and the RNC lean on them and tell them that if they defy their directions, they will be punished, by withholding funds and support or, as we have seen this cycle with the DNC, by saying that the primaries from any states that try to move their dates ahead of other states won’t be counted.
So the RNC controls which states get to vote first. And it’s obvious that they like it the way it is and would resist any revolts on the part of more conservative states.
The national party forced Gerald Parsky on the Republican Party of California under Bush, which gave us such choices as Richard Riordan and, when that failed, Arnold. Republicans in California are pretty conservative, but they have been constantly overridden from Washington and from the RNC. With the results that we see today.
Please explain...
“He took on the Islamofascists when it seems the whole world opposed him on it.”
Actually most of the world was eith him (and us) on the war in Afganistan. It was only when he got us sidetracked in Iraq that the world stepped back and opposed us.
Then you are in luck this election cycle.
There are just as many conservatives in this country as there were in 2004, but they have been kicked in the teeth by Bush and the RNC and pork-hungry Republicans in congress. As a result, conservatives are discouraged and have no one to vote for, and the Republican Party is in serious disarray and may toss away an otherwise certain win in this critical election.
Most of us know perfectly well what we want to vote for. We just aren't being offered the opportunity to vote for it.
Exactly, Well Said
Ask Florida and Michigan about that one.
As opposed to just laying down and accepting mexican culture, huh ben?
If you are going to fit in to the new GOP, you need to get a limp wrist and walk with a swish.
So you’re saying we aren’t fighting Islamofasists in Iraq?
“So you’re saying we aren’t fighting Islamofasists in Iraq?”
No I am not saying that. I am saying that Iraq was a mistaken detour. Should have finished up Afganistan. Iraq was doing nothing that it had not done for a decade or more when we invaded it. It could have waited.
Christian organizations were predisposed against Thompson for his participation in McCain-Feingold, which was pointed at the Pro-Life folks more than any other. His very first steps out of the box seemed to pit him against the Christian Right, as his own staff realized all too late.
[...] rumors and smears to the contrary—has a solid pro-life record.
Yes, he does, though his early position was pro-choice, at least through the third month. His statements as such are a matter of fact.
Huckabee managed to smear Thompson, with constant emails to the Evangelicals during the critical primaries accusing him falsely of being pro-abortion.
Thompson lost the Christian Right before Huckabee's rise. In fact, I would submit that Huck's rise was largely the result of Thompson's missteps early on, as Huck didn't even begin to rise until after Thompson's debut. It seems to me that Thompson took all the air in the room, everyone waiting for him to throw his hat in the ring... when he did, voters were unimpressed, and especially the core socon voters.
I’m Catholic, but I’d be happy to support a solid pro-life Evangelical. Keep in mind that Ronald Reagan was not a regular church-goer either, and was divorced and re-married; but he had the solid values that counted. Same with Thompson. That’s why NLR supported and endorsed him.
I am an Evangelical, and I would have been happy to support Tancredo (second only to Hunter), and will vote for Keyes if he makes it into the general election. Both are Catholics. But I would not support Thompson under any circumstance.
While he may have been closer to a conservative than the other 'top tier' candidates, He is no Reaganite, and could not bring home the socons, not to mention the defcons, where he was at least a secondary candidate.
Huckabee is a lying fraud, a snakeoil salesman.
I won't go that far, but neither will I (nor did I) support him. He was sufficient for the socons, and on their issues. While I lean hard toward the socons, I vote for Reagan Conservatism. Huckabee, Like Thompson, was unable to embrace all three pillars.
Romney is another matter. He not only had problems with his Mormonism, but he was a flipper flopper who pro-life stance was extremely doubtful.
Romney is a flat-out liberal, every bit as bad as Giuliani. That was his problem. As I have said before, If he had been an Orrin Hatch (Western Conservative Mormon), I think the outcome would have been much better. I would have no problem voting for a sincere conservative Mormon. Of the final candidates, Romney was least likely to succeed... No Reaganite, to be sure. At least he had sense enough to appeal to Reaganism, I will give him that.
There are just as many conservatives in this country as there were in 2004, but they have been kicked in the teeth by Bush and the RNC and pork-hungry Republicans in congress.
yep
I always felt that if Hunter got some good media exposure ala McCain/Obama he would have made it.
He must be enormously popular in his district. His son won the primary by a landslide, probably on sheer name value.
Thanks for alerting me to the bad link. The RNC website developers like changing things up too much. The sign up page must have changed too. I would have preferred to direct people to the state GOP websites, as the RNC hasn’t done a lot to deserve our donations.
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