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Posted on 06/04/2008 5:01:02 PM PDT by Alouette
I just read it like you suggested... the police didn't help the prosecution any...
It sounds like the defendant had a stronger case for not guilty by reason of insanity without the police interview... but I believe in that case... he would be institutionalized.
“Not guilty by reason of insanity” had its place in history, when it meant the defendant could spend the rest of his life in an insane asylum (which in those days were worse than prison) instead of being executed.
Today it just means the defendant is given some pills and turned loose.
From the article:
“One of the biggest was a pretrial ruling by King County Superior Court Judge Paris Kallas that placed a detailed, 55-minute interview Haq had with police right after the shooting off-limits for evidence, because police had ignored Haq’s multiple requests to speak with an attorney.”
This raises some interesting questions. Say that there was an active shooting like this and law enforcement believed that the individual was a member of a terror cell and had information about terror attacks set to occur within the coming days or weeks. Would the LE’s only options after a request to speak with an attorney was made be to have the DOJ contact the President and request an immediate “enemy combatant” designation?
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What a crock. Too many libs in Seattle. Now if the man had shot a cat he would have been hung.
One of the jurors said that varying opinions of jurors caused the mistrial. Sadly not surprising for Seattle.
Ten to one some member(s) of the jury felt “sorry” for the SOB because he was a muzzie who was “oppressed” by the occupaaaaaaaaaaaaayshun.
Islam IS institutionalized insanity. It is the death cult of a dead conquering warlord.
It’s like saying that a cannibal hunting and killing victims is “insane”. Clearly so. Rational people don’t engage in such activity in society.
As for Seattle having a statue to Lenin, it is more accurate to say that a certain neighborhood of Seattle has a statue of Lenin (that was originally erected in Czechoslovakia) and that it is tolerated because the people in this Seattle neighborhood tend to focus more on its artistic qualities rather than the legacy of person it represents.
There is no Stalin, because everyone is afraid of what the REAL one would do, in case he somehow came back!
And he'd be institutionalized till cured. Maybe he could convert to Christianity.
When you consider that, insanity aside, the jury found him not-guilty of attempted 1st degree murder, and couldn't even agree if it was 2nd degree, I say the jury was a bit muddle headed. The only question they've left open is if it's open season on Jews, or all infidels. Hopefully his next jury will have better sense.
“Maybe he could convert to Christianity.”
Heard rumors about this with Ramzi Yousef. Taqiyyah shenanigans?
Things are pretty bad if someone commits what is clearly pre-meditated murder and terrorism and the jury cannot even agree on 2nd degree. I would not be surprised if all the "peace" and "human rights" groups make this creature into a hero.
“I say the jury was a bit muddle headed”
I seem to recall that the hung jury asked for more info. on what it means to be “insane”. They were instructed to use all of the guidance given to them in the trial, with emphasis on something like to declare him insane meant that he didn’t know the severity of his actions or if they were wrong. (It wasn’t exactly that - but something like that).
The defense lawyer said they couldn’t be instructed anymore (like what is considered “wrong”) and the judge upheld it citing some long-standing precident.
As I said, these weren’t the exact terms. But my thought upon reading it was “Well of course in Seattle you aren’t going to come up with an agreement on what is right or wrong - even when it comes to killing someone.”
(By the way, if he was so insane as not to think he had done anything wrong - why did he grab a hostage to try to avoid capture?)
Opps - I should have read the article.
“Haq grew a goatee, then shaved it off ....He tried platform shoes to increase his height and donned a toupee....and had strangely swollen ankles.”
Seems like he had all sorts of justification to shoot up a Jewish center. I think it was Sam Mallone that offered these words of wisdom: “There’s no such thing as bad boys, only bad haircuts.”
I read that too, it's hard to figure out without hearing from the jurors. Since it was a single incident, to me the not guilty means they rejected the insanity defence on some level. How you can commit a single crime and be sane on one count, insane on another is beyond me. The jurors reasoning would be interesting to hear.
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