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Cost of Polygamist Case Tops $7 Million
CNN via AOLNews ^ | 6-4-08 | Ashley Broughton

Posted on 06/04/2008 4:25:34 PM PDT by FreeInWV

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To: Eva
Huckabee was seen as stirring the pot against the Mormons for political purposes, when he made comments against the FLDS.

I missed that, or just wasn't paying attention. What did he say?

Are you saying that this animosity only arose in the past year?

61 posted on 06/05/2008 10:33:53 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: FreeInWV
When 28 year olds with birth certificates & drivers licenses are declared disputed minors and held against their will for over a month,

I guess that'll teach 'em not to be cultists.

Maybe they'll give up that foolishness and be normal.

62 posted on 06/05/2008 11:50:33 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Are you being sarcastic?

Define normal.


63 posted on 06/05/2008 11:55:47 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
Why are you changing the wording of my question, instead of answering it?

I would have thought that would have been obvious. The reason for bussing the children matters. If you think that the CPS had a good reason for bussing the children then what the Baptists did was a good thing. If you think that what the CPS did in taking the children from their parents was reprehensible then what the Baptists did was reprehensible.

Some posters here would have rather seen the children chained to each other and marched into town rather then get on a Baptist bus. Why is that?

No, the posters here would rather the children not be torn from their mothers arms. Do you think that the CPS did the right thing in tearing the families apart?

64 posted on 06/05/2008 1:08:34 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: patton
The court order for DNA testing is not at your link.

Actually it is, via another link way down at the bottom right. But here it is, it's a PDF file, so you at least need Adobe reader:

http://web.gosanangelo.com/pdf/DNAParentageTesting.pdf

65 posted on 06/05/2008 4:01:07 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

See post 60 - I found it already. Or, more accurately, I was led by the nose to it.

Now, will it stand up in court?

I don’t know.


66 posted on 06/05/2008 4:05:00 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: patton
Define normal.

ROTLMAO, Humble hasn't seen "normal" in a good long time .. Not that that's a Bad Thing you understand. He's just not your average guy. He's at least Six sigma away in some unique direction in some higher dimensional space. He's just Humblegunner

He is a friend to horses, goats, dogs and FReepers ... but not Midgets!

67 posted on 06/05/2008 4:07:56 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: humblegunner
Forgot to ping you to #67.

Bad form that. Taking a good natured jab at one's friends without pinging them to it.

68 posted on 06/05/2008 4:13:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato; humblegunner

I Have heard him described as abby...abby...abby norma something, before.

But...Humble, what is really pissing you off about all this?

Are you angry, because some of us wierded out when TX CPS trashed the Constitution?

Would you be angry, if TX trashed the 2nd, and we wierded out?

Is not the supreme law of the land, the law for the ugly, and probably guilty, just like it is for the rest of us?


69 posted on 06/05/2008 4:22:46 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: El Gato

OBTW, the day the DEA goes over to the National Archives, siezes the US Constitution, and destroys it, because it is written on HEMP PAPER - well, Claire Wolfe’s awkward time is over.


70 posted on 06/05/2008 4:25:52 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: patton; El Gato
But...Humble, what is really pissing you off about all this?

I just don't seem to be able to gin up a lot of sympathy for
folks that teach that the modern world (and me, by extension)
is evil. Toss in the fact that they have a history of marrying off kidlet
girls to old guys and I like 'em even less.

I can't get past viewing them as criminals who "bleed the beast"
(Read: welfare fraud) and commit statutory rape under the guise
of some crackpot made-up religion.

And they dress funny.

71 posted on 06/05/2008 5:29:41 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Alice in Wonderland

I was raised in the Southern Baptist church in Missouri. Good people. So why were Baptists so heavily involved in this raid?

I wrote a letter to the pastor of the First Baptist Church in El Dorado TX. I mean, what was he thinking? How much were the Baptists paid for the use of their buses? I think they thought they were doing God a favor by rounding up all those FLDS kids at gunpoint. Unfortunately, they forgot about the Constitution in their zeal to do God’s bidding.

By the way, http://texaslastfrontier.com/prairie_fire_journal/blog1.php/2008/04/08/texas-flds-raid-has-odious-smell-to-it


72 posted on 06/05/2008 5:42:53 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Eva

I have never heard of Huckabee making comments about the FLDS?

I am very anti-FLDS, but then I am anti-Huckabee too.


73 posted on 06/05/2008 7:03:02 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I was raised in the Southern Baptist church in Missouri. Good people. So why were Baptists so heavily involved in this raid?

Could it be that there is a high concentration of baptists living in that area? If this situation played out in, say, Boston, maybe we'd ask "Why were Catholics so involved in this raid?"

74 posted on 06/05/2008 7:37:48 PM PDT by jabchae
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To: humblegunner
And they dress funny.

Yea they do:

Sort of like that guy.

Or this one.

75 posted on 06/05/2008 9:29:18 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: LeGrande; Alice in Wonderland
Hmm, lets change the wording a little : )

"Personally, I thought it was very nice for the Baptist church to offer its buses to transport Jews to be gassed on a school day when school buses were transporting school children, but some took that as offensive. Why?"

Excuse me but why & where do you get off changing the wording? The is no reason for it . Or do you just like to stir the pot? Or do you try to get anyone who isn't in agreement banned? Why do you need to know what church someone goes to? Its not your business. I go to a few myself depending on where I happen to be. Its is getting really old with you & many of the pro FLDS group.

CPS went in saw danger in their opinion & even if it was wrong they did what they felt was correct. Is it a known fact Warren Jeffs married young girls? Why yes it is! Is it a known fact boys are tossed out of this CULT? Why yes it is. Is it a know fact there are women who had babies as teens?..Why yes it is. Is it a known fact that the FLDS women lied?..Again yes.

Its too bad that CPS didn't have a solid case before they went in YFZ ranch. I don't like CPS at all. I also detest rapists in the name of religion. And I am totally against polygamy & gay marriages. I don't believe in ripping families apart as Warren Jeffs did or as the CPS did.

Now you can post all you want to me & call me names & get the others to do the same but I won't be here to reply as I am going camping.

I am not a religion basher but the things going on in ALL FLDS compounds stink. I hate the fact that we all pay for a bunch of men to have multi-wives & tons of children. Its called Bleeding the Beast...Again I am correct. Now if you think about it over in Jeffs other compounds/towns (whatever pleases you to call them) ....fraudulent birth certificates & licenses could have been easily made up as the towns are run by FLDS or used to be. At this point I have given up on what the FLDS does. It seems its fine & dandy for a bunch of old horny goats to have child brides & huge families & that we ought to pay for it. I don't know how this mess is going to be settled. I just hope that there are no more teen brides & that the FLDS gets off welfare in ALL of their compounds. I have not known if they collected in TX but they sure do in other states. IMHO if you want to engage in polygamy then support the wives & families yourself. Don't put the burden on the taxpayers. And leave the teen girls alone. Have a very nice , safe weekend. Pandora

76 posted on 06/05/2008 9:49:05 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: FreeInWV

Now I wonder...if CPS is so worried about underage mothers...why aren’t they investigating the numerous black and hispanic teenagers who have children well before their 18th birthday?

My, my. One might wonder about selective enforcement, mightn’t one?


77 posted on 06/05/2008 9:54:01 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: humblegunner
Maybe they'll give up that foolishness and be normal.

BTTT

78 posted on 06/06/2008 12:00:37 AM PDT by bobbyd (Flyer, I love and miss you...Lords best my FRiend)
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To: LeGrande
It is precisely your kind of posting of such an offensive statement, that will cause FR to be associated with DU and the Huffington Post.

If you want to take the entire board down to win some silly argument about buses have at it.

People like you make me ashamed to be a FReeper.

79 posted on 06/06/2008 1:32:55 AM PDT by Pebcak
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To: patton

“However, it does include a snippet, saying that all children have now been picked up, and I thank you for providing that.
I was waiting to see if any went unclaimed, because it would have been strong evidence that some parents, as has been claimed, are not actually related to their supposed children.
It seems that didn’t happen.”

That raises a good point in itself. The CPS and scores of posters here have claimed that “Those kids don’t even know who their parents are!”. Apparently they did, and the CPS refused to accept their proof until forced by a judge. Much like the 28 yo disputed minors with birth certificates and drivers licenses. Apparently, it was nothing but abuse of authority and propaganda.

There is no way that the CPS would have ever released any child to anyone but their undisputably proven legal guardian. And all of the DNA tests aren’t even back yet.


80 posted on 06/06/2008 5:05:45 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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