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Jews united for Israel's friends [Ahmadinejad, Pope Benedict, Obama, Abe Foxman and Pastor Hagee]
Jerusalem Post ^ | 6-2-08 | CAROLINE GLICK

Posted on 06/02/2008 1:34:15 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: Gumdrop

Yes, Donoghue is always very decent about accepting apologies. But in the end he was played for a bit of a sucker by the lying leftists, because they took his original complaint, ran with it, and maybe caused McCain some future trouble with Evangelicals for picking Hagee as as a religion adviser and then dropping him under pressure.

It’s ironic, in a way, because McCain attacked Bush in the 2000 campaign for visiting Bob Jones University, and made a big issue out of it.


21 posted on 06/02/2008 6:15:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

After seeing that exchange, I would add a thought I had earlier, while reading the article—that Pope Benedict doesn’t really expect thanks, either. Of course he would welcome it, and welcome better relations, but he’s just doing what he thinks is right.


22 posted on 06/02/2008 6:17:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: dervish
The polls say that 60+ percent of Jews are supporting Obama.

I assume you mean for Obama vs. McCain. I saw that poll. It was conducted by Gallup using a methodology that, as usual, causes inflation of the Democrat percentage. Furthermore, the poll was a couple of months ago, and more ugly stuff about Obama has come out since then.

When November rolls around - assuming it's Obama vs. McCain, look for McCain to get a minimum of 40% of the Jewish vote. It could go considerably higher.

23 posted on 06/02/2008 6:18:02 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Cicero
After seeing that exchange, I would add a thought I had earlier, while reading the article—that Pope Benedict doesn’t really expect thanks, either. Of course he would welcome it, and welcome better relations, but he’s just doing what he thinks is right.

Agreed.

24 posted on 06/02/2008 6:26:06 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Naso' 'et-ro'sh benei Gershon gam-hem; leveit 'avotam lemishpechotam.)
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To: dervish

1. It’s a shame that even AIPAC is shunning Hagee. That is sad and they know better.

2. McCain is on the road to at least Reagan’s numbers in the Jewish community. That’s very good.

3. Where is the love for Lieberman? Why hasn’t he been asked to speak at the convention yet?


25 posted on 06/02/2008 7:03:01 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: justiceseeker93

I hope we see historic numbers for Jews for McCain. But have you seen the names of the leading lights in his campaign? And he knows the importance of the Jewish vote especially in Florida, Penn and NJ. Expect major BS and suck up to come.


26 posted on 06/02/2008 7:40:39 PM PDT by dervish (Why is the post-racial candidate drawing 90+ percent of the Black vote?)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

On AIPAC and Hagee, is it certain that he was excluded or did they just pick different speakers this year? I did not follow this issue. If they really excluded him they are not only shameful but stupid.


27 posted on 06/02/2008 7:44:10 PM PDT by dervish (Why is the post-racial candidate drawing 90+ percent of the Black vote?)
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To: SJackson
No Koran kissing by this Pope.

Although I'm not Catholic, I am awed at the process, signaled by the White smoke, that brings to leadership the right man for the time. I am enthralled with Pope Benedict XVI.

28 posted on 06/02/2008 8:15:12 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: SJackson
Until last weekend, Obama was a 20-year member of the Trinity United Baptist Church in Chicago.

Correction: it isn't a Baptist Church, but a United Church of Christ congregation.

29 posted on 06/02/2008 8:21:03 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Tex Pete

Well, as a Catholic I must say that what he has said about the Catholic Church is not much different than what one hears from Liberals. If he is anti-Catholic, he is pretty much in the mainstream of opinion. As to his comments about the Holocaust, what he said is consistent with the Prophets who saw Nebuchanezzar as the instrument of God.


30 posted on 06/02/2008 9:09:00 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: happygrl

On the day of John Paul’s funeral, he was a man on fire. This meek, modest little professor seemed six feet tall before the throng of people. I think the cardinals got the same message. At the same time, they knew they were getting someone as wise as the serpent, as well as as simple as the dove. He is not one to bang heads, but he gets his way. I pray that he can stay with us for at least another five years.


31 posted on 06/02/2008 9:24:22 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: RobbyS

I think if you read the full context of his quotes, you might think otherwise.

Soundbites and one-liners are the media’s favorite methods of distortion.


32 posted on 06/02/2008 9:39:02 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: dervish
I wouldn't have given it any thought except that this is the assertion Caroline Glick is making here:

This week in Washington, DC, AIPAC is hosting its annual policy conference. It will be an illustrious affair. Heavy-hitters from both American political parties will be in attendance, as will scholars and activists from Israel and the US. But one name is noticeably absent from the three-day program. John Hagee - who in three years has transformed CUFI into a grassroots pro-Israel movement that dwarfs AIPAC in size - is not on the program. And this is a horrible thing.

AIPAC's decision to shun Hagee says something terrible about the state of American Jewish politics today. Quite simply, Hagee has become a victim of liberal American Jewish leaders' decision to place their leftist political preferences above their concern for Israel's survival and for the well-being of American Jewry.

33 posted on 06/02/2008 9:46:49 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Yes I read “shun” in the article, but wondered if there was anything more than he was omitted. Of course it is awkward now that McCain has denounced him.


34 posted on 06/02/2008 10:03:16 PM PDT by dervish (Why is the post-racial candidate drawing 90+ percent of the Black vote?)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Also, David Brog, Exec Director of CUFI (Christians United for Israel, Hagee’s org) will be speaking.


35 posted on 06/02/2008 10:23:03 PM PDT by dervish (Why is the post-racial candidate drawing 90+ percent of the Black vote?)
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To: Tex Pete
The Holocaust, you mean? In terms of Jewish history, the last three hundred years have witnessed what amounts to a mass apostasy, which parakkekes the one among Christians. As far as his remks about Catholics, most graduates of Harvard think of the Catholic Church as an obstacle to the true Enlightenment faith.
36 posted on 06/02/2008 11:04:39 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: SJackson

Hagee earned his own history. None gave it to him. His own acts and deeds will be remembered. I stop here and do not record my own reflections on him.


37 posted on 06/03/2008 1:26:35 AM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: dervish
I think that Hagee's true support is growing, that AIPAC stepped back because a battle over Hagee would be divisive at this moment. Rabbi Yoffee came out and stuck his foot in his mouth about Hagee, and The Rabbi's largely accepted his guidance on this.

But, Caroline Glick is right and by attempting this smear of a truely good man, Yoffee has only humiliated himself.

Hagee is pursuing the right course, just keep slugging at it.. keep doing as best he can and wait out his detractors. By going to Catholic League and securing their acceptance of his apologies and that the basic points he makes about Catholic anti-semitism are generally accepted as part of the past of the Catholic Church. That these practices and behaviors are part of the past and not something to repeat in the future. Hagee goes after Martin Luther just the same.. recounting history, not Judging other faiths in their message of today except as how they behave.

Caroline Glick is also dead on the money about Pope Benedict, we are blessed with much in that in this time of outright assault bridges are being put into place so that Christians and Jews may recognize that we share much more than we disagree about.

Ultimately, Yoffee will have to answer for his embrace of the Islamists. There are good people who believe this is the way toward peace, but Olmert and his crew have just about proved that this was just a fantasy.

American Jews are blessed to have Rev. Hagee teaching and creating a possible world where Secularism isn't the only answer for Jews to feel safe. Secularism has been a scourge for the Jewish community just the same as it has for the Christian community and the country as a whole.

We need to have a Secular government so that it may be neutral to faith, but our society needs to get back to honoring God, acknowledging faith and patriotism as positive values, and insisting on morality based on the Judeo-Christian value system rather than the creeping moral relativism of the porn culture that is destroying our very way of life.

38 posted on 06/03/2008 2:37:58 AM PDT by dalight
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To: BlackElk

Amen and right on, BlackElk!


39 posted on 06/03/2008 11:23:33 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hillary, Obama, McCain. Curly, Larry, Moe. Decisions, decisions.)
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To: Alouette

Caroline Glick is one of my favorites!


40 posted on 06/03/2008 11:24:14 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hillary, Obama, McCain. Curly, Larry, Moe. Decisions, decisions.)
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