Posted on 05/30/2008 2:00:59 PM PDT by Utah Girl
Eventually you'll figure out people will probably be more pi$$ed about the Texas Appeals and Supreme Court justices going soft on pedophilia than anything CPS did.
Really? Perhaps not if you are willing to dictate somebody else's life decisions.
Perhaps there was a couple among the hundreds of parents who had decided that they didn't want to belong to FLDS anymore and they had already bought a house in Utah for their family. What do they do with the house while they are being held in Texas? When can they ever have any hope of being able to relocate to another state? A year? Five years?
What if a couple had just been visiting FLDS and has a home elsewhere? Are they now forced to become Texas residents?
Who decides what the "parenting" class is? Will it teach these parents that it's okay to have "Two Mommies" like some of the public schools in the country, but only if there are no Daddies?
Who pays for the parenting class? What does it take to satisfy CPS that no further "parenting" class need be taken? What if you don't "pass" the class by agreeing to whatever is taught constitutes proper parenting?
I think it sounds a lot less reasonable if you apply it to your own life.
The fact you don’t understand doesn’t mean something isn’t happening. Lots of stuff goes on right under your nose all the time.
Watch for a further dust up on that particular point.
They do, really, have only one address - much like Bill Gates, world's richest man. He has one address, one residence, multiple buildings. Somewhere in there he worships at the MS-Dos temple, and then there's the Windows temple.
The only differencce between Bill Gates residence and that of the F(lds) is that he paid for his. No one knows who paid for theirs.
Or are you perhaps speaking of the F(lds)
Actually they do, but they have no power to retain custody of the children. So these "do this or we'll not give the children back" threats are just so much product of bovine digestion.
They can require the parents to keep the kids in a particular jurisdiction, but I don' think they can dictate where in that jurisdiction that might be. They can ask the court to remove (some of) the men from the children, but they'll have to present evidence that those particular men represent a threat to particular children. Here's what the TX SC majority said:
the Family Code gives the district court broad authority to protect children short of separating them from their parents and placing them in foster care. The court may make and modify temporary orders “for the safety and welfare of the child,”[4] including an order “restraining a party from removing the child beyond a geographical area identified by the court.”[5] The court may also order the removal of an alleged perpetrator from the child’s home[6] and may issue orders to assist the Department in its investigation.[7] The Code prohibits interference with an investigation,[8] and a person who relocates a residence or conceals a child with the intent to interfere with an investigation commits an offense.[9]
Full Opinion is here
This could drop right off the edge of the worldd momentarily.
Go look up the defintion of mailfraud sometime. It usually means writing a bad check.
All I can say is, those poor children!
One loftover kid and there’s a doggone good kidnapping case to file against every single F(lds) member. I’m sure they are all prepared for life in prison.
Seems little enough to have parents prove who they are. They'd need to do that to get a kid admitted to a public school virtually anywhere in America.
One Address, one membership, one prophet
The cult woman appear to have been brainwashed since early childhood to accept what these pervert men want to do with them. I didn’t see or hear one of them that didn’t seem to be a controlled zombie. They condoned what was being done to their children because it was done to them as well. So I repeat: Those poor children! Unbelievable!
All I can say is, those poor children!
Well supposedly that was the long term goal of CPS anyway. This expedites the process and in the long run maybe beneficial to all concerned. I think this event has shown a spotlight on this group and they’ll get much closure attention in the future. Also I think the criminal side is where the most impact would have been made anyway if indictments and or convictions were obtained. We’ll see how that plays out over the next year or so.
Is there a legal defense fund for these FLDS parents?
I think you are wandering down a logical dead end here.
I've worked several initiative petition drives here in Kalifornia. The requirement for a valid signature is that the signer supply their legal address on the form.
While collecting signatures in a very rural county, I had several people supply P.O. Box numbers. The instructions for signature gatherers warned us that we needed the residence address and that P.O. Box numbers were not acceptable.
It appears that the instructions were WRONG. In some rural counties people live on large ranches WITHOUT mail delivery. The ranches have no legal mailing address. The people that live on these ranches carry state driver's licenses that list P.O. Boxes for addresses and they register to vote using such P.O. Boxes. There is no legal requirement that a person have a mailing address for their residence.
sorry, I don’t know
Mini barf on that...I've been vocal in saying that state overreached. In no way does that suggest I want to defend the practice of the FLDS, and I'm certainly not going to help "fund" their lifestyle. Stop the child abuse AND stop the legal abuse.
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