Rod, gun club draws some fire

DailyFreeman.com ^ | 29 May, 2008 | William J. Kemble

[marktwain]

I see this type of thing over and over again. A facility has been peacefully going about its business for years or decades, then activist adversarys buy/rent property nearby and use all of our nannystate instituions such as zoning, the enviromental laws, and the litigation explosion to close down the activity that *they* intruded on.

[Redbob]

"Chumas said reorienting the range would provide a safer facility and have less impact on neighbors."

I got a suggestion:
How about if this maroon packs his bags and moves?
The range has been there for 75 years, right?
And these idiots move in next-door and complain???

[AU72]

Penn & Tellers “Bull ****” series eviscerated the Endangered Species Act last night.

[Wonder Warthog]

"A facility has been peacefully going about its business for years or decades, then activist adversarys buy/rent property nearby and use all of our nannystate instituions such as zoning, the enviromental laws, and the litigation explosion to close down the activity that *they* intruded on."

Follow the money. I'd bet that somewhere in the bushes there is a developer who would LOVE to get his hands on that 340 acre site. I'm pretty sure that is what is behind the constant drumbeat to close the Gig Harbor gun club. The city has spread out around it, and it sits on a big chunk of highly desirable/developable real estate. The club would move further out, but "NIMBY" prevents that.

My personal take is that every local county should be REQUIRED to establish shooting ranges at public parks. Tacoma has spent BIG BUCKS to build a golf course. Why should the elitists who want to "whack little white balls around" get priority over those who would like to target shoot.

[marktwain]

“Penn & Tellers “Bull ****” series eviscerated the Endangered Species Act last night.”

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Sounds like it was worthwhile. Part of the Republican platform should be an initiative to protect people from abuse of the endangered species act. A good part of the reform would be to remove the enabling language that allows anyone to sue anyone else for “endangering” “endangered” species and to collect damages for doing it. This is lever that most of the wacko left environmentalist groups such as the Center for Biological Diversity use to stop as much human activity as they can.

[ZULU]

“Chumas said reorienting the range would provide a safer facility and have less impact on neighbors.”

Chumash and the other iditos who moved in after the range was built should re-orient themselves.

But then, New York, Like New Jersey, Massachusetts, Illinois, California and Maryland is no longer part of America, so I know where this will wind up.

[conservativehusker]

I handle the web site for our Rod and gun club and I received an E-mail on the morning of one of our largest trap shoots complaining about the noise. A google map showed the guy lived 7 miles away!!!!!

Anyway I mentioned it a board member and he told me I should tell the complainant to call the sheriff and complain — “As soon as the sheriffs son was done shooting!..LOL”

We've been there 55 years - but then again we aren't in PRIME property..and have lot's of VIP’s in club and as honorary members.

[OldEagle]

Maybe it is time to legalize suppressors or silencers they are sometimes called. That would solve the problem.

[Niteranger68]

Maybe it is time to legalize suppressors or silencers they are sometimes called. That would solve the problem.

You're hired!!!!

[DBrow]

You see the same thing with agriculture. Houses get close to a farm, people complain about odors and sound, use the legal system, and if all goes well, there’s 350 acres more development, more houses, near another farm, or range, or whatever.

Maybe the range should look into an environmental easement or whatever it’s called, so that the land can’t be developed.

[marktwain]

“Maybe it is time to legalize suppressors or silencers they are sometimes called. That would solve the problem”

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In much of Europe, you could not get a handgun permit *unless* you also showed that you were buying a suppressor, so as not to offend the neighbors.

In Finland, their high court has held that it is a Constitutional right for them to freely make, sell, trade, and use suppressors. England had free access to suppressors for decades after we made it prohibitively expensive to obtain them. They are still much more common in England than here. There, they are just another firearms accessory, like another stock or a holster.

[marktwain]

“You see the same thing with agriculture. Houses get close to a farm, people complain about odors and sound, use the legal system, and if all goes well, there’s 350 acres more development, more houses, near another farm, or range, or whatever.”

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I have a good friend who started fighting local corruption. He started publishing his own newsletter, and distributing it. A couple move next door to his cattle business and complained to county democrat politician (She was their freind). She managed to have his state agricultural lease taken away, when everyone said that there was no way it could happen. She ruined him, and was happy about it.

[Joe Brower]

Link by link the chain is forged.

In regards to the availability of shooting lands, the RKBA loses more ground each and every year.

[Centurion2000]

In Finland, their high court has held that it is a Constitutional right for them to freely make, sell, trade, and use suppressors.

I wonder how nice Helsinki is for a vacation in the summer?

[Centurion2000]

She ruined him, and was happy about it.

Wow, I'd think an extra legal solution would satisfy everyone all around ... except for the evil woman that trashed his life of course.

[marktwain]

“I wonder how nice Helsinki is for a vacation in the summer?”

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I have often thought that profit could be made by organizing a shooter’s workshop in Finland, where tourists from the United States could go to design and make their own suppressor and test it. It would be sold to a Finn before their departure, but the experience would be “priceless”.

[marktwain]

“Wow, I’d think an extra legal solution would satisfy everyone all around ... except for the evil woman that trashed his life of course.”

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She is no longer a County Supervisor. I am told that she had a Concealed Carry Permit herself, yet she led the charge in prohibiting people from carrying firearms in County buildings.

[STONEWALLS]

“I see this type of thing over and over again”
....exactly!...this is a classic case....many gun clubs were formed years ago....they went way out of town and bought worn out farm land for cheap....built their club and ranges and were happy.....but over time growth and development slowly crept their way and before you know it they’re considered a “nuisance”....revenue hungry pols know if they can shut the club down they will get more taxes when the land is developed.

[12Gauge687]

Good luck with your club. Here in the People’s Republic of the Midwest, people are bitching and moaning all the time despite the fact they arrived decades after the clubs opened. In the Chicago area, the Northbrook Gun Club had to relocate from Northbrook to Hainesville, Illinois. Now called the Northbrook Sports Club, we’re seeing developments swallow up the nearby farmland and pretty soon those inhabitants will be complaining, too.

[rickomatic]

My personal take is that every local county should be REQUIRED to establish shooting ranges at public parks. Tacoma has spent BIG BUCKS to build a golf course. Why should the elitists who want to "whack little white balls around" get priority over those who would like to target shoot.

Snohomish County is in the final stages of authorizing a County Parks department shooting range in the Sultan Basin. I was recently at a meeting where every single public official in attendence (local,county & state) was IN STRONG SUPPORT of this. Even in liberal Puget Sound La La land the blind squirrels find a nut from time to time.