their moral worth is irrelevant... their alien status is what counts. NO American should die because an alien got their xplant.
Posted on 05/30/2008 5:06:44 AM PDT by decimon
It’s not the doctor’s job to make a decision on how to treat a patient based on his moral worth. It would be a gross violation of the hippocratic oath to do so...
This is why I won’t sign a transplant form unless I have veto power over the recipient.
In Pittsburgh, the transplant team broke their own rules to give a liver to a homosexual activist with AIDS. The man made himself famous for breaking into Mass at St. Patrick’s and throwing condoms on the parishioners. By rule, livers aren’t supposed to go to people with terminal illnesses or over a certain age. He was both.
Physicians don’t take the Hippocratic Oath anymore.
Based on this article, Dr. Busittil did indeed make decisions based on some sort of worth. What the blank the FBI was doing is up in the air.
“As a surgeon, it is not my role to pass moral judgment on the patients who seek my care,” read the statement, which didn’t directly address the Japanese patients.””
I didn’t see anywhere where he did. The only inference I got was that he would have prioritised patients according to clinical needs, not on their moral superiority...
their moral worth is irrelevant... their alien status is what counts. NO American should die because an alien got their xplant.
I don’t believe the hippocratic oath takes into account the nationality of the patient either.
I am reminded of a fuss that was kicked up many years ago when a American Billionaire came to Britain and got a heart transplant on the NHS, which was even worse, because his treatment was funded by British taxpayers, whereas this gang boss at least payed for his treatment under the american system.....
this has NOTHING to do with any oath and theres a BIG difference btween treating an Emergency/Acute Case(what the oath was for), and a PLANNED future operation without FIRST checking to see if theres an AMERICAN ALREADY ON THE LIST!!!
Are american taxpayers paying for the operation?
As I said, I any decision on medical treatment should be made purely on medical need, not on the nationality of the patient or whether they are a criminal or any other reason.....
As I said, I any decision on medical treatment should be made purely on medical need, not on the nationality of the patient or whether they are a criminal or any other reason.....
it has nothing to do with money... it is about INTENTIONALLY letting an AMERICAN DIE in favor of an alien. what is so hard to understand about that???
A Los Angeles hospital provided liver transplants to four Japanese gang figures, including one of Japan's most powerful gang bosses, over a period when several hundred area patients died while awaiting transplants, according to a published report.
and then if you read this sentence -
Tadamasa Goto, who had been barred from entering the United States because of his criminal history, was the most prominent transplant recipient.
and then if you thought to yourself, how in the world could Mr. Goto have jumped to the front of the line if he had previously been barred from entering the United States?
Well, I admit, that is a bit iffy, but it’s not the doctor’s problem, it’s the US authority’s problem for letting in a notorious criminal. The physicians themeselves were bound to treat him according to his clinical needs and not any other criteria....
First, UCLA's own site says that the waiting list for liver transplants is over 9,000 people long and further that the only way you can get a liver transplant is to be on that list. Did UCLA check that list before performing the transplant on this Japanese gangster?
Second, UCLA is supposed to look for the best available match. Was that procedure followed in transplanting an American liver into a Japanese gangster's body?
Third, a few years back St. Vincent's hospital had their liver transplant program suspended after it was found that they had jumped a Saudi national to the front of the line in return for a hefty payment from the Saudi gov't. Did anything like that happen here?
ping to 15
I have a final question for you. This article raises obvious questions about the propriety of the liver transplant that was performed on the Japanese gangster. And yet your first reaction on reading this story is to defend the doctor. Why is that — do you happen to be a Saudi national. or a Japanese gangster?
Nope. I knew however, that the doctor was about to be subjected to a populist rant about treating a foreign criminal when honest americans were dying by the score. I am simply pointing out that it is not the doctor’s role to make decisions based on any other criteria other than clinical need.
If doctors are allowed to let their personal feelings trump those of his duty to his patient, you are treading a very dark path, and I suspect not many would like where that led...
are you an American?
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