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Tom Eblen: NRA's slippery slope full of holes
HERALD-LEADER (Kentucky) ^ | May. 25, 2008 | Tom Eblen

Posted on 05/28/2008 4:15:33 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: RJL
The no-compromise crowd has kept law enforcement agencies from having some tools they need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people. And that has led to some over-reaching, such as when police in New Orleans illegally seized hundreds of guns after Hurricane Katrina.

The police TURNED LOOSE criminals and crazy people and in addition became looters themselves. There was a total breakdown of society. Those who were awaiting trial never went to trial. Police abandoned their posts.

A police state requiring the public to turn over their guns to a corrupt police force was NOT the answer. It was all about stemming any bloodshed from those doing the shooting that the police were unwilling to do.

41 posted on 05/28/2008 8:50:11 PM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: neverdem
I don't know whether the American Hunters & Shooters Association is a good organization or a bad one.

I don't know either, but I do know that "Hunter's rights" is Liberal code for "we don't need no stinkin' Second Amendment". I wonder how long before some enterprising conservative blogger finds the Soros/Democrat connection to "American Hunters and Shooters Association".

42 posted on 05/28/2008 9:30:24 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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I don't know either, but I do know that "Hunter's rights" is Liberal code for "we don't need no stinkin' Second Amendment". I wonder how long before some enterprising conservative blogger finds the Soros/Democrat connection to "American Hunters and Shooters Association".

American Hunters and Shooters Association

Connections to the usual suspects was better than I expected in Wikipedia!

43 posted on 05/28/2008 10:23:19 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem
I know all that I need to know about possible compromise with the 2nd amendment when I read, "...Shall not be infringed."
44 posted on 05/29/2008 6:34:01 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: neverdem
BTTT

Paper: I Know, Let's Compromise Our Rights Away!

45 posted on 05/29/2008 10:55:50 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: wastedyears
Only thing is, your average person might not have the land, money or knowledge to maintain WMD. In that case, it could be collectively owned by the town, and I don’t mean town government.

One common interpretation of the Second Amendment is that it guarantees private ownership of weapons that can be carried & operated by an individual, meaning anything short of crew-served weapons. Quite frankly, that interpretation may be overly restrictive (many 'historical' militias possessed artillery). IMO, the most common references to WMD as they relate to the Second Amendment (and I am not saying this applies to YOU) are as 'straw man' arguments by the uninformed and ignorant, opposing the rule of constitutional law, and supporting totalitarian government...

46 posted on 05/29/2008 2:34:58 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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To: Who is John Galt?

By WMD, I mean destruction on a massive level. Nukes of all types, bio and chem-warfare stuff.

As for crew-served, I wouldn’t mind an 80lb grenade thrower.


47 posted on 05/29/2008 5:13:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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To: wastedyears
One of my best friends, an Army vet, says his favorite weapon is a grenade launcher. With a little practice, he tells me, you can drop a round into a barrel at a hundred yards or better...

;>)

48 posted on 05/29/2008 6:31:00 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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To: Who is John Galt?

Into a mortar barrel?


49 posted on 05/29/2008 6:43:10 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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To: wastedyears

I would guess he was referring to a standard 42 gallon steel ‘oil’ barrel. Whatever they were, they were definitely disposable. ‘Training’ is one reason we have the finest military in the world...


50 posted on 05/29/2008 6:50:50 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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To: wastedyears

By the way, you seem to have wandered off topic - apart from historical references, I don’t believe anyone here has suggested that the Second Amendment refers to anything but small arms...


51 posted on 05/29/2008 6:55:54 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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