Posted on 05/26/2008 8:42:15 PM PDT by Jim Noble
Who woulda thought:
Tuesday, November 18, 2003
Supreme Court strikes down Texas sodomy law
Are Current Laws Against Polygamy Enforceable?
Probably not for long.
I cant fathom having more than one wife.
I got more than I can handle with one.
These geeks are...
The law can’t be enforced. Efforts need to be places so that the “Brides” really have a choice and can say no. The cults have to be opened up some. Making Polygamy legal would be a positive thing as everything would be in the open, maybe under aged brides would be able to get rights as a “wife” and the ability to divorce or seek guidance. If you can’t stop it, control it and tax it.
Why does it have to be taxed?
Giving congress another source of money is like giving a teenager your booze and your car keys.
Regarding number 8 and 11: You haven’t learned much in the last few weeks, despite all the posts on the FLDS topics.
1. In Texas, it is legal to marry at 16 with parental consent, not 15. However, parents may not give consent for fornication, sexual assault by someone more than 3 years older than their child, or any other sort of sex outside of marriage.
2. The children were removed from the compound based on a warrant issued by a judge due to the statements given voluntarily to CPS workers and Texas Rangers.
3. Part of the reason that we changed our laws of consent in Texas in 2005 was to clarify prosecution and enforce our parental notification (now consent with a notarized affadavit) laws. There was, yes, an uproar among the parties that do not want any limits on teen sex, but we prevailed.
I don’t want to make polygamy legal. God forbid. All I’m saying is that it’s a free country and people can be idiots if they so desire. And just because a pile of people decide to be idiots, that doesn’t mean they should not be allowed to procreate. And they should not be punished for being idiots. Freedom of association, freedom of religion, free speech, etc. The Constitution covers idiots, too.
FYI see Reynolds vs. US
Do buses have a religion? Are Baptists buses so much worse than say, Greyhound? Would the kids have had no trauma at all had they been public school buses?
We need to encourage long-term monogamous relationships between men and women, especially to have children, because that will strengthen our society.
Still, it’s interesting that you put yourself at greater risk for prosecution for polygamy the more you take care of the children of women you sleep with. If you just have one-night stands and move on, no problem. If you have two long-term relationships at the same time, but keep one secret and encourage abortions (the mistress), again, no problem unless your wife finds out and divorces you.
But if you have an open long-term relationship with two women, and encourage both to have children, then you are in trouble.
“Are Baptists buses so much worse than say, Greyhound? “
Ouch, sorry, struck a nerve. I think it was very poor judgment on the part of the great state of TX to rent buses from a Baptist church to round up FLDS children. Separation of church and state and all of that, not to mention bad blood between FLDS and Baptists. It was like rubbing salt in an open wound. But oh, how the Baptists must have loved every minute of it. What a delicious moment for them.
The vast majority of polygamous marriages involve one man and multiple wives (AKA polygyny) — polyandry is much less common. Obviously, if a lot of men have multiple wives; there will be many others who have none. (Assuming a rough balance between the sexes.)
Before the welfare state, men were expected to support all of their wives. Today, a lot of polygynous “families” seem to be entirely supported by welfare. That means most men are not only being deprived of a chance of having a wife — but, they also have to pay to support the families of men who have several wives. A double-whammy.
One only has to look at the nearest ghetto to see how destabilizing a large number of single, young men can be to a society. Marriage tends to civilize men. The outlook is not good.
Actually, events usually do punish people for being idiots. (God is an iron.)
However, the State punishes adults who harm or conspire to harm 3rd parties, including their own children. In these cases, we aren’t talking about the State and individuals. We are talking about the State, adults, and the children they are harming.
Of course, it’s only sex. And only one or two a year. Not immediate, just nice slow, methodical and systematic abuse.
Thank you so much for enlightening me on the laws of the Great State of TX and how the Great State of TX was justified in going into the ranch to rescue all the children and adult women, rounding them up at gunpoint.
Your welcome.
BTW, all laws are enforced by guns and prisons.
Sorry, that should be “You’re welcome.”
“Not immediate, just nice slow, methodical and systematic abuse.”
The kids had to be in “immediate” danger, remember? Then the appeals court was right.
Yep, evidently, Texas law says it’s okay if it’s slow, methodical, systemic abuse rather than immediate.
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