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A faith-based approach to undocumented immigration[South Texas]
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 05/24/2008 | Hernan Rozemberg

Posted on 05/25/2008 4:17:34 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

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Hope "Grupo Romo" does criminal background and health checks./s
1 posted on 05/25/2008 4:17:35 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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Too bad our gutless leadership wouldn’t see this as an oportunity to easily round up some illegals for deportation.


2 posted on 05/25/2008 4:25:23 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: SwinneySwitch

Well, if the illegal immigrants are going to come in and spread tuberculosis and leprosy, I suppose this could be seen as our “first line of defense”. Not wishing anything on them, they volunteered for the job.


3 posted on 05/25/2008 4:27:04 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: SwinneySwitch
I can see how it honors God to help poor immigrants who entered this country legally. Our local church does so.

On the other hand, it seems to me to be Scripture twisting to ignore the passages that teach being subject to authorities and scoff at this country's immigration laws and harbor illegal aliens who are really fugitives. Note that in this country even illegal aliens are granted due process.

4 posted on 05/25/2008 4:29:44 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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I think the Christian thing to do is to help people do well in their own country or help them to come to this country legally. I don’t see what is Christian about helping someone do something that is illegal.


5 posted on 05/25/2008 4:31:46 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

We agree


6 posted on 05/25/2008 4:33:07 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: luckystarmom

I would also add the the elders of the local churches who scoff at this country’s laws will have to answer to the Chief Shepherd for ignoring His Word.


7 posted on 05/25/2008 4:36:28 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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“We respect the laws of this country,” said Gomez, who’s originally from Monterrey, Mexico. “We’re not promoting illegal immigration or any kind of sanctuary movement.”

Here is a perfect example of a boldfaced lie.


8 posted on 05/25/2008 4:37:10 PM PDT by whipitgood (Neither of, by, nor for the people any longer...)
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To: SwinneySwitch
The activists, all Catholics, are trying to organize a network of places and services that migrants can tap for help.

The catholics have a lot of taxable church property, time to tax it!

9 posted on 05/25/2008 4:37:48 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: DeLaVerdad; YourAdHere; Be_Politically_Erect; Ultimatum; Sterco; Paige; Tennessee_Bob; cspackler; ..

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


10 posted on 05/25/2008 4:38:56 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch; nicmarlo; AuntB; Kimberly GG; BufordP; trooprally; Just A Nobody; HiJinx; ...

Here are some real faith-driven criteria:

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.
It is sin to steal using anchor babies and other tricks to get—or give for votes—free Health & Welfare benefits.

THOU SHALT NOT COVET.
Be grateful; do not envy what’s not yours.

THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS.
Don’t lie and perjure or accept fraudulent documents.


11 posted on 05/25/2008 4:41:46 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: mrsmel

Too bad our gutless leadership wouldn’t see this as an oportunity to easily round up some illegals for deportation.
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It is much worse than being GUTLESS. They are COMPLICIT and encourage illegals — all at the cost of the American taxpayer and REAL CITIZENS.


12 posted on 05/25/2008 4:42:55 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
None of that matters to the "Our Lady of the Bent Hanger Abortion" crowd. God is an invention for furthering left wing causes in their eyes.
13 posted on 05/25/2008 4:45:25 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: luckystarmom

Oh, luckystarmom! You really hit the target.

If these “faith-based” people would just spend their energies helping people in Mexico to become self-sufficient, to develop skills, to master basic economic understanding, and then to apply for citizenship legally.... that would be truly Christian.

And, so many of us would be willing to help in that endeavor.


14 posted on 05/25/2008 4:45:44 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: MrEdd

True, but sometime preaching to the choir gets them out of the loft and into their humble public servants’ offices to make sure the situation is remedied!


15 posted on 05/25/2008 4:51:04 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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" 'When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God. -- Leviticus 19:9-10.

Some will say Leviticus is archaic, but it seems that the Judeo-Christian tradition has always been built on an essential hospitality for the alien.

Seems to me there's some balance here that is not being struck.

16 posted on 05/25/2008 4:51:12 PM PDT by Nice50BMG ((taglines optional post))
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I would point out that the 'alien' in Lev 19 was typically not violating immigration laws. I would suggest that by helping legal aliens one is fulfilling both the letter and spirit of the law.

Want to help the illegal alien? Encourage him to turn himself in, return home and apply for legal immigration to this country. Help him to support himself in his own country in the mean time.

17 posted on 05/25/2008 4:57:19 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: luckystarmom
I think the Christian thing to do is to help people do well in their own country or help them to come to this country legally. I don’t see what is Christian about helping someone do something that is illegal.

Were Jesus to walk around in the U.S. today, he'd be visiting at the homes of illegals, among others. He fraternized with all kinds of lowly types - the poor, prostitutes, etc. He'd never encourage illegal behavior (unless in violation of God's law), but he'd surely forgive them...70x7. Frankly the bulldog, take-no-prisoners attitude I sense from many posters daily is flat-out un-Christlike.

Trying to make a pro-strong borders argument from a Christian perspective is a losing proposition - there is much less evidence on the law-and-order side of the argument.

I won't be voting for McCain because of his weak immigration positions. But, it's not because his positions are more or less 'Christian', it's because they don't jive with law-and-order and the morality of the law, which all comes down to basic justice. McCain's manner ('they are all God's children') is actually much more Christian than most peoples' manner here.

18 posted on 05/25/2008 4:58:42 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: SwinneySwitch
The group named it for Toribio Romo, a Mexican priest killed in the 1920s and later canonized as a saint. Many unauthorized border crossers invoke him when praying for successful passage into the United States.

Praying for a Saint to aid in criminal activity? Just what part of Catholicism is that based on?

19 posted on 05/25/2008 5:01:43 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Nice50BMG
All they need is the address.


20 posted on 05/25/2008 5:02:23 PM PDT by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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