Posted on 05/25/2008 9:03:56 AM PDT by MizSterious
So, are you saying that Utah and other states with FLDS present, think that they should advert their eyes and pretend it isn't happening just because of the Constitution that doesn't protect the rights of pedophiles?
“Not surprised. They probably had plans for the property.”
I would say that no one had plans for the property, though, until after the ‘raid’.
The fact that real estate speculators, or anyone wanting to turn a fast profit, might see the potential in buying the now ‘improved’ land tract (1700 acres/est.), should the UEP have to sell it to recoup expenses, is just recognizing the reality of the current situation.
What does YFZ stand for?
“That’s the real difference between Texas and say Utah.”
But, Utah, Arizona, and Colorado were after JEFFS and his victims.
Those states did use laws to try and go after the criminal practices of the sect.
Warren was put in jail. He continued to ‘run’ the YFZ Ranch.
Whether he still does is questionable.
In Texas, though, the CPS decided to act, and had not been allowed access to homes, or the temple, and ended up getting a search warrant to do so.
They ended up taking the children ‘en masse’, after all was said and done (over a 3 day period), and then the Judge made an ‘en masse’ ruling.
This ‘en masse’ ruling is what most seem to question as constitutional.
It is now what the appeals are all about.
We have things in our country, in our courts that get approved by the authorities, and end up ‘unconstitutional’.
One person makes a decision, based on their knowledge, and experience, and try to fulfill the intent of the law.
How can you blame the whole state of Texas, for what you perceive that one Judge mis-judged?
As others have said, if we just hung judges for making rulings that the public declares ‘wrong’, then we would have no need for an apellate court process.
News flash: The Constitution does NOT guarantee the freedom to molest young girls or use them for sexual slavery. Utah isn’t honoring the Constitution, it’s trampling all over it by allowing this travesty of a religion to exist in that state.
The land in that area is NOT that expensive. It’s not California, where you can pay up to ten times the actual worth of a property. And if Texas does seize it to help pay the bills, I’m not at all sure what they’ll do with something set up the way the ranch is set up—what do you do with an oversized ugly temple surrounded by ugly dormitories? Farm land is not that valuable (and I know this first hand), so their farming enterprises aren’t going to be real moneymakers either.
Can you provide some proof for this claim? Because if not, then I'm just going to call a "baloney alert" on that one. The women (and many others who haven't written a book) have been pretty consistent in telling how they were treated. If they bought into it "hook line and sinker" it's because they were BORN into it. For most of their lives, it was all they knew.
None of these women have said anything about about another wife being added--one of them, in fact, even stated that she had to leave or her "husband" would have allowed her son to die--he didn't like the fact that out of all of his MANY children, this one son was born with an incurable disease, he thought it made him look like he had faulty genes. He wanted the son dead, out of sight, out of mind. Her daughter was about to turn 14, meaning she was about to married off to some drooling old geezer next. So she bolted.
Your claim that they all have individual freedom doesn't take into consideration the huge amount of intimidation, on every single possible level, from being told they will not be allowed into Heaven, to being shunned by family, all the way to the blood atonement.
Some "individual" freedom.
Do they or do they not follow Joseph Smith’s teachings and use his writings?
It is getting more and more difficult to not call these folks what they are. I am not talking about the victims of the state in the Sect, but the sickos here. I am really starting to see that this prospect of girls and old men excite them. They can’t quit talking about it, they post what I would say is close to child porn and run around yukking it up. Perhaps we should have noticed that they were projecting their freakish fantasies on others, but it hadn’t occurred to me. Just watch how they get all titillated and turned on by all of this.
One of the reasons I had to come to this conclusion was that as more and more CPS released/leaked information is proving to be false, and more and more of the wild rumors are false, the clan just continues passing lies off as rumors.
I think they pray that all the worst things happened to these children and young women. They pray and hope and cheer for news on perversion and wrongdoing so they can all sit around and breathlessly read about it. Sickos. I pray for the opposite. I hope no child was harmed in the sect. I pray that each child didn’t have these wild accusations happen to them. So far my side is winning. Each time news comes out, the news is bad for CPS. Bad for the mob.
Do they or do they not follow Joseph Smith’s teachings and use his writings?
They use some book of Mormon with a prior to date of which the date I don’t remember. That was an issue that had to be addressed when supplying the book to the children..... With a prior to date indicates it is an older version which wouldn’t have current changes incorporated in it assuming they have made revisions to their beliefs.
Keep Sweet..... ya hear!!
If anyone's been doing any "hoping" it's you, fella.
Yeah, that is what you would prefer and that was what you hope for in the end - that is why I posted that. Bolding and capitalizing it won’t help - people are smart enough to figure it out. You don’t want comparisons to Waco, but they are there and I will make them. Next time the CPS will just burn the evidence and people rather than be hassled like the storm that is brewing. I am on to your sickos though. You like reading about the stuff don’t ya? Truly disturbed individuals.
Say your prayers, so far God is answering mine and not yours. With every news release we find out all your darkest lies, hopes and dreams were untrue about these children.
Shame on you.
If anyone's been doing any "hoping" it's you, fella.
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