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Utah, Texas laws are similar; FLDS population isn't
Deseret News ^ | May 25, 2008 | Amy Joi O'Donoghue

Posted on 05/25/2008 9:03:56 AM PDT by MizSterious

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1 posted on 05/25/2008 9:04:05 AM PDT by MizSterious
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Town not happy about sect's return

By JAYNA BOYLE
Scripps Howard News Service
Saturday, May 24, 2008

ELDORADO -- The news that hundreds of children could soon return to a compound run by a polygamous group near here brought an unhappy reception from the YFZ Ranch's neighboring community.

Eldorado residents expressed skepticism that evidence of abuse is lacking. Some said they won't be welcoming the sect members -- who are scattered across the state trying to stay with their children -- back to Schleicher County with open arms.

Gabe Rodriguez said no one likes the idea of children being taken from their parents, but he said he is wary of allowing the children to return so soon.

"Let's do the job right," he said. "It's a long, drawn-out process, but we're there. Let's finish the process."

Rodriguez said it's unfortunate that Eldorado is getting attention only because of the raid on the ranch of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. He said the Eldorado High School sports teams have done the best ever, with a winning season in every sport.

"It's not fair to our kids," Rodriguez said. "There's more to Eldorado than this."

Source.

2 posted on 05/25/2008 9:06:50 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: greyfoxx39

FYI ping!


3 posted on 05/25/2008 9:13:21 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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Interesting--from the NYT Bestseller list, non-fiction:

10. ESCAPE, by Carolyn Jessop with Laura Palmer. (Broadway, $24.95.) A former member of a fundamentalist polygamous sect describes her forced marriage to a much older man.

Source

No matter what the fLDS supporters do here to try to quash this information, the truth is being told, apparently to a LOT of people. CBS's 48 Hours is airing "Polygamy: A World Apart" Tuesday night at 10 Eastern. ABC's 20/20 ran a segment about this last week. And there's not a thing these people can do about it.

4 posted on 05/25/2008 9:20:41 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...

Ping


5 posted on 05/25/2008 9:53:48 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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No matter what the fLDS supporters do here to try to quash this information, the truth is being told,

You mean rant, rave, gnash teeth and mount vicious personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with them?

6 posted on 05/25/2008 9:57:44 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff has said in the past that prosecuting polygamy in Utah would be impractical, flooding Utah jail cells with thousands of adults and putting even more children into the state foster-care system who were born from polygamous unions.

Prosecuting polygamy would also embarrass the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. That would get Shurtleff tossed out in the next election. That would really be impractical.

Therefore, in Utah, all of the abused children living in polygamous Mormon cults need to ... Keep Sweet!

7 posted on 05/25/2008 10:08:45 AM PDT by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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"CPS...they just need enough cause to believe that if the child isn't removed there will be immediate danger... However, in their ruling last week, the Texas 3rd Court of Appeals ruled the evidence for taking away all the children "was legally and factually insufficient....

Uhhhh the conservative appeals court said more than that...They said

“The existence of the FLDS [Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints] belief system as described by the department’s witnesses, by itself, does not put children of FLDS parents in physical danger.”

Innuendo, rumors, guilt by association, collective guilt and group punishment should not be part of our legal system. Stop the child abuse, but also stop the legal abuse.

8 posted on 05/25/2008 10:22:12 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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You mean rant, rave, gnash teeth and mount vicious personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with them?

BTTT

9 posted on 05/25/2008 11:01:36 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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“The existence of the FLDS [Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints] belief system as described by the department’s witnesses, by itself, does not put children of FLDS parents in physical danger.”
10 posted on 05/25/2008 11:03:34 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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Left off the ROFLOL, statement by the court, is appealed and doesn't mean squat..
11 posted on 05/25/2008 11:05:09 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: greyfoxx39
You mean rant, rave, gnash teeth and mount vicious personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with them?

That has been the M.O. of the lynch mob from day one. You very well know that. Even asking questions would result in an attack.

12 posted on 05/25/2008 11:18:59 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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From the article: "The way the state sees it, this was a community designed and organized for the purpose of carrying out felonious sexual assault against underage girls," McCown said. "All these adults were bound up in this culture, are part and parcel of it, so they (Texas authorities) have a duty to protect the children."

The disbelievers in this design would have us join them in their disbelief of all of...
...the eye-witness testimony from ex-members & members,
...its long-time historical multi-generational practice,
...its criminal justice track record,
...media reports, and the like surrounding this group.

Some people see design & conclude, "There must be a designer." (For the...
...FLDS such design = false Mormon god speaking thru "revelation" Mormon "prophets";
...world such design = the real God speaking thru the revelation of His world).
Other people don't acknowledge such designs (the naysayers about fLDS behavior; and the evolutionists who refuse to acknowledge such designs of the world).

13 posted on 05/25/2008 1:00:17 PM PDT by Colofornian (As the fLDS is now, the LDS once was. As the fLDS is now, the LDS will become)
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"Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!"
"How do you know she is a witch?"
"She looks like one."
14 posted on 05/25/2008 1:06:02 PM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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Well, the key thing to remember here is that while CPS has hit a bump, the multi-level criminal investigation is just beginning.

Criminal investigation of polygamous sect unimpeded by court wrangling

Like someone said yesterday, the Fat Lady hasn't even arrived on stage yet.

15 posted on 05/25/2008 2:32:51 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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"It goes back to the public policy of Texas that plural marriages are unacceptable — that they are a social evil.

And so what does Utah think??????

16 posted on 05/25/2008 3:21:03 PM PDT by Godzilla (Decaffeinated coffee is like faith without works.)
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” . . .brought an unhappy reception from the YFZ Ranch’s neighboring community.”

Not surprised. They probably had plans for the property.


17 posted on 05/25/2008 8:07:16 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: MizSterious

Here’s the problem I have with the ex FLDS women who wrote books. First of all, they were in the FLDS system for years and years, had a bunch of kids, and bought into the lifestyle hook like and sinker. Then one day, their “husband” decides to take yet another “wife” which pisses off the women who went on to write books and they left in a huff, taking their kids with them.

These women who wrote books are royally pissed off and want revenge. The TX CPS used these women who write books as a basis for the abuse charges, etc., stereotyping/labeling all FLDS women, which is horribly unfair and unconstitutional.

The Jeffs guy is in prison which is a good place for him. The women who wrote books are vindicated by that fact. Anything else is vengeance and hearsay.

Furthermore, what is true for the women who wrote books is not necessarily true for every FLDS woman. Each person has individual rights.


18 posted on 05/25/2008 8:18:50 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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“No matter what the fLDS supporters do here to try to quash this information, the truth is being told”

By the way, why are you not capitalizing the F in FUNDAMENTALIST? Perhaps you are trying to make people think these FLDS people are real Mormons? Only the ignorant wouldn’t know better.

I am not a supporter of FLDS. I am a supporter of the U.S. Constitution.


19 posted on 05/25/2008 8:21:55 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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“And so what does Utah think??????”

Utah, and the other states where this problem exists, think the Constitution should be honored and followed. That’s the real difference between Texas and say Utah.


20 posted on 05/25/2008 8:24:29 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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