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Framed in muskets
Leesville Daily Leader ^ | 23 May, 2008 | John Simeone

Posted on 05/24/2008 6:21:22 AM PDT by marktwain

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An insprirational look at an American right.
1 posted on 05/24/2008 6:22:02 AM PDT by marktwain
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2 posted on 05/24/2008 6:29:54 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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Plain and simple, we are armed to the last man.

Once yes, but no longer. In fact we deny gun possession to ex-felons let out of prison (I think this is only since 1968, just 40 years ago, and will note that it matters not the crime -- not that anybody on FR will think this a bad thing) and people who live in the "wrong" locales. And in order to buy a gun one has to jump through ever-increasing hoops.

Do nothing, and it's only a matter of time.

Just look at the silliness going on today... can you really remain all warm & fuzzy about your rights?

3 posted on 05/24/2008 6:32:39 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters!)
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“Once yes, but no longer. In fact we deny gun possession to ex-felons let out of prison (I think this is only since 1968, just 40 years ago, and will note that it matters not the crime — not that anybody on FR will think this a bad thing) and people who live in the “wrong” locales. And in order to buy a gun one has to jump through ever-increasing hoops.”

Actually, the Gun Control Act of 1968 did not prohibit felons from possessing guns. It only prohibited felons from purchasing guns from a federally licensed dealer. There is a big difference. In US v Lopez, 1995, the Supreme Court ruled that mere possession of a gun is not under federal jurisdiction, because it is not interstate commerce.

That has not stopped the feds from passing laws that make possession of a gun by someone who committed an act of domestic violence, but it should not hold up to a Supreme Court test.

Most States have laws prohibiting possession by felons, however.

4 posted on 05/24/2008 6:38:02 AM PDT by marktwain
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Great article!


5 posted on 05/24/2008 6:39:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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6 posted on 05/24/2008 6:53:32 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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Most States have laws prohibiting possession by felons, however.

Interesting. Out of curiousity, are there any that don't?

7 posted on 05/24/2008 7:04:50 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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“Interesting. Out of curiousity, are there any that don't?”

That is a very good question. I know that they vary a good deal.

A working hypothesis, however, is that many of the laws were passed because of BATF lobbying efforts. Most prosecutions are under State law, and that shields the federal law from Constitutional challenges. I have had a number of people tell me of the BATF lobbying State Legislatures to pass gun laws in their States.

8 posted on 05/24/2008 7:14:51 AM PDT by marktwain
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Ah. It might not be from simple “lobbying” efforts, though. In this state I’ve seen a number of bills over the years filed in an attempt to preserve grants being received from the feds — under threat of having those grants reduced if federally-desired laws aren’t passed.


9 posted on 05/24/2008 7:32:06 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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You are absolutely correct. Many State laws are passed under “duress” from the feds. It is an excellent reason to do away with all “revenue sharing” from the feds to the states.


10 posted on 05/24/2008 7:36:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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Agreed, but not likely to happen anytime soon.


11 posted on 05/24/2008 7:43:43 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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12 posted on 05/24/2008 7:46:22 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (www.pinupsforvets.com)
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To: Clint Williams

Do you know where the sole primary source is that breeds gun control?


13 posted on 05/24/2008 8:20:36 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Winston Churchill said, "Americans always do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.)
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“Agreed, but not likely to happen anytime soon.”

I understand that there is a case about the Lautenberg amendment that is coming before the Supreme Court in October or November of this year. It is from one of the southern states, and the appeals court ruled for the man who had been deprived of his rights. I will see if I can find a cite for you.
14 posted on 05/24/2008 8:37:14 AM PDT by marktwain
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Looked it up. Interesting.


15 posted on 05/24/2008 8:41:26 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar
Here is a link to the article about the upcoming Supreme Court case involving the Lautenberg amendment:

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/5660

16 posted on 05/24/2008 8:46:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: sionnsar

I have not read the actual case. Does it bring forward the issue of Lopez ruling that mere possession is not interstate commerce? I know that it deals with the ex post facto issue.


17 posted on 05/24/2008 8:48:15 AM PDT by marktwain
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Most States have laws prohibiting possession by felons, however.

Per the Thirteenth Amendment, I would suggest that states have the right to impose almost any restriction whatsoever on convicted felons as part of sentencing. That does not imply the right to change such restrictions retroactively.

Per the "Full Faith and Credit Clause", the federal government would be authorized to pass measures to make one state's prohibition against a convicted felon's acquisition of arms applicable in other states, if it could do so without interfering with law abiding persons' right to keep and bear arms. I'm not sure exactly what form such a law would take, but it could, for example, provide that no person shall supply arms to anyone wearing some particular style of anklet. States could then require convicted felons to wear tracking anklets for the duration of the prohibition on bearing arms.

Note that such a federal law would not be restricted to interstate sales (since it would be based upon FF&C rather than Interstate Commerce), but would only be applicable in situations where disarmament was an explicit part of sentencing. Further, its legitimacy would be predicated upon the fact that observing whether a person is wearing an anklet does not take any significant time or impose any expense, nor does it provide the government with information to which it is not entitled. Other measures like background checks etc. impose hassles and expense, and give the government information to which it is not entitled, and thus are not legitimate.

18 posted on 05/24/2008 7:25:04 PM PDT by supercat
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19 posted on 05/25/2008 7:30:06 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Clint Williams said: "not that anybody on FR will think this a bad thing"

I, for one, think it is a VERY bad thing. The entire federal gun registration scheme rests on the fiction that the system can disarm freed felons. If I was on the Supreme Court, this law would be struck down as unConstitutional along with any requirement that a firearm have a serial number. We don't do it with books and we shouldn't do it with firearms.

20 posted on 05/25/2008 11:02:26 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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