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Obama criticizes absent McCain on Senate floor, McCain hits back hard
Politico.com ^ | May 23, 2008 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 05/23/2008 5:48:26 AM PDT by libstripper

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To: libstripper

Obama is a two-bit bastard child born to a pimp married to an atheist slut. McCain is a great patriot born in a legendary patriotic family. End of discussion.


21 posted on 05/23/2008 6:06:06 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

That’s totally uncalled for. McCain has his own personal baggage and so does his wife.


22 posted on 05/23/2008 6:07:44 AM PDT by gingerky
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To: libstripper
The Adult in this race, John McCain tells the inexperienced little kid on the block How The Cow Ate The Cabbage! - read it all:

"It is typical, but no less offensive that Senator Obama uses the Senate floor to take cheap shots at an opponent and easy advantage of an issue he has less than zero understanding of. Let me say first in response to Senator Obama, running for President is different than serving as President. The office comes with responsibilities so serious that the occupant can't always take the politically easy route without hurting the country he is sworn to defend. Unlike Senator Obama, my admiration, respect and deep gratitude for America's veterans is something more than a convenient campaign pledge. I think I have earned the right to make that claim.

"When I was five years old, a car pulled up in front of our house in New London, Connecticut, and a Navy officer rolled down the window, and shouted at my father that the Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor. My father immediately left for the submarine base where he was stationed. I rarely saw him again for four years. My grandfather, who commanded the fast carrier task force under Admiral Halsey, came home from the war exhausted from the burdens he had borne, and died the next day. I grew up in the Navy; served for twenty-two years as a naval officer; and, like Senator Webb, personally experienced the terrible costs war imposes on the veteran. The friendships I formed in war remain among the closest relationships in my life. The Navy is still the world I know best and love most. In Vietnam, where I formed the closest friendships of my life, some of those friends never came home to the country they loved so well.

"But I am running for the office of Commander-in-Chief. That is the highest privilege in this country, and it imposes the greatest responsibilities. It would be easier politically for me to have joined Senator Webb in offering his legislation. More importantly, I feel just as he does, that we owe veterans the respect and generosity of a great nation because no matter how generously we show our gratitude it will never compensate them fully for all the sacrifices they have borne on our behalf.

"Senators Graham, Burr and I have offered legislation that would provide veterans with a substantial increase in educational benefits. The bill we have sponsored would increase monthly education benefits to $1500; eliminate the $1200 enrollment fee; and offer a $1000 annually for books and supplies. Importantly, we would allow veterans to transfer those benefits to their spouses or dependent children or use a part of them to pay down existing student loans. We also increase benefits to the Guard and Reserve, and even more generously to those who serve in the Selected Reserve.

"I know that my friend and fellow veteran, Senator Jim Webb, an honorable man who takes his responsibility to veterans very seriously, has offered legislation with very generous benefits. I respect and admire his position, and I would never suggest that he has anything other than the best of intentions to honor the service of deserving veterans. Both Senator Webb and I are united in our deep appreciation for the men and women who risk their lives so that the rest of us may be secure in our freedom. And I take a backseat to no one in my affection, respect and devotion to veterans. And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did.

"The most important difference between our two approaches is that Senator Webb offers veterans who served one enlistment the same benefits as those offered veterans who have re-enlisted several times. Our bill has a sliding scale that offers generous benefits to all veterans, but increases those benefits according to the veteran's length of service. I think it is important to do that because, otherwise, we will encourage more people to leave the military after they have completed one enlistment. At a time when the United States military is fighting in two wars, and as we finally are beginning the long overdue and very urgent necessity of increasing the size of the Army and Marine Corps, one study estimates that Senator Webb's bill will reduce retention rates by 16%.

"Most worrying to me, is that by hurting retention we will reduce the numbers of men and women who we train to become the backbone of all the services, the noncommissioned officer. In my life, I have learned more from noncommissioned officers I have known and served with than anyone else outside my family. And in combat, no one is more important to their soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen, and to the officers who command them, than the sergeant and petty officer. They are very hard to replace. Encouraging people not to choose to become noncommissioned officers would hurt the military and our country very badly. As I said, the office of President, which I am seeking, is a great honor, indeed, but it imposes serious responsibilities. How faithfully the President discharges those responsibilities will determine whether he or she deserves the honor. I can only tell you I intend to deserve the honor if I am fo rtunate to receive it, even if it means I must take politically unpopular positions at times and disagree with people for whom I have the highest respect and affection.

"Perhaps, if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully. But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions. If that is how he would behave as President, the country would regret his election."

23 posted on 05/23/2008 6:07:44 AM PDT by yoe ( Socialism with Obama or Clinton - Democracy with McCain)
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To: libstripper

Obama is a two-bit bastard child born to a pimp married to an atheist slut. McCain is a great patriot born in a legendary patriotic family. End of discussion.


24 posted on 05/23/2008 6:09:23 AM PDT by nwrep
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No, I think her plastic surgeons removed all of those.


25 posted on 05/23/2008 6:12:36 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: libstripper

The posts on this thread keep disappearing then reappearing.


26 posted on 05/23/2008 6:13:40 AM PDT by Snurple
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To: libstripper

Obama-lama-ding-dong is going to get even more of this if he keeps opening his piehole to spew this sort of babble.

I still despise McCain, but he’s just enough of a cranky old guy to beat Barry’s ass like a redheaded stepchild.

And he will. That much I give McCain credit for.


27 posted on 05/23/2008 6:13:57 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Eurale

B. Hussein was in south Florida yesterday, pretending like he wanted Jewish votes. I think it was sad to see so many folks applauding him...I don’t think he ever mentioned wanting to open up unconditional dialouge with Ahmandinejead, a man who denies the Holocaust and who recently referred to Israel as a “stinking corpse”.

But a lot of the news reports mentioned this....or not.


28 posted on 05/23/2008 6:15:55 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: libstripper
Whoa!! Obama stepped into McCain's wheelhouse and got bashed! Quick, somebody send Obama a cut man:


29 posted on 05/23/2008 6:16:17 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: libstripper
Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark? McCain has been making it easier to vote for him lately.

In my life, I have learned more from noncommissioned officers I have known and served with than anyone else outside my family. And in combat, no one is more important to their soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen, and to the officers who command them, than the sergeant and petty officer.

This is something Obama could never understand. I'm glad McCain understands this truth.

30 posted on 05/23/2008 6:20:29 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: libstripper

McCain took Obama to the woodshed! Ouch!!!


31 posted on 05/23/2008 6:20:57 AM PDT by avacado
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That’s totally uncalled for.

No it is not. I reserve the right to insult someone who takes cheap shots at a patriotic American and belittles his military service.

32 posted on 05/23/2008 6:22:08 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: libstripper

McCain took Obama to the woodshed! Ouch!!!


33 posted on 05/23/2008 6:22:25 AM PDT by avacado
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To: libstripper

Obama needs to be made into a modern Dan Quayle for his 57 states comment and the rest of his gaffs.


34 posted on 05/23/2008 6:22:53 AM PDT by MeSpikeLibs (I thought Democrats wanted to count the votes in Florida!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: libstripper

McCain served his country with great honor; what exactly has Obama done? How this guy is this close to the white house really sickens and frightens me!


35 posted on 05/23/2008 6:22:59 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: libstripper

Temper controled...more or less! Nothing “Obambi” does not deserve.


36 posted on 05/23/2008 6:24:01 AM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: libstripper
Obama is an empty suit who never served in the military so McCain is right, Obama should STFU. I don't like 90% of McCain's views on domestic issues but he's right on when it come to foreign policy. BOMB IRAN!
37 posted on 05/23/2008 6:26:26 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Eurale

This bill is excessive and is yet another “trap” by the dems to make anyone who honestly disagrees look bad.

This bill is ridiculously excessive. Only 8% of all vets take advantage of all the GI benefits afforded them right now. Why would this bill be any different?

Currently, the GI bill allows about $15,000 a year for school and school-related expenses. That goes a long way at many public institutions. This also does not include savings plans avaiable for tuition. There are also agencies such as the Air force Aid Society (and equivalent organizations for the other branches) that provide need-based scholarships to members and their dependents. Finally, there is tuition assistance for those on active duty who want to take classes, usually 50% of the class cost, that is paid for by the service.

The one thing missing is the ability to transfer these benefits to spounses or children—that is what McCain’s bill provides.

I’ve talked with several active duty military members, no one knows very much about the current bill. Perhaps Senator Webb should talk to the service members before he recommends billions of dollars in benefit increases to an already generous educational package provided to our service members.


38 posted on 05/23/2008 6:26:27 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: libstripper

Wow. I just hope he acts this tough as CIC.


39 posted on 05/23/2008 6:26:37 AM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: Always Right

“Perhaps, if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully. But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions. If that is how he would behave as President, the country would regret his election.”

SO THERE!!!


40 posted on 05/23/2008 6:27:56 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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