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Historians Write Off Bush's Presidency
Townhall.com ^ | May 22, 2008 | Larry Elder

Posted on 05/22/2008 5:04:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: tsomer
W picked his battles— the important ones and left the others alone.
They would have distracted him.

Exactly! Support for the WOT was/is the single most important issue. He was forced to compromise far too often to keep that support.

61 posted on 05/22/2008 8:25:18 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: econjack
Tax breaks for the rich.
This is the one that really frosts me.

As well it should. It also assumes that taxes are a good thing and history has never shown that.

What this article shows us, though, is that these "historians" are left-wing turds.

62 posted on 05/22/2008 8:50:17 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Brilliant

Those that “WRITE OFF BUSH’S HISTORY” may be the same that wrote “DEWEY WINS BY A LANDSLIDE”
President Bush is the best of all choices then, and now!!!!!


63 posted on 05/22/2008 9:29:24 AM PDT by LetMarch ((If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward--Anonymous))
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To: Mr. Mojo
Amen bro. I've said this for months. All the Bush-bashers around here will be elevating him up to just behind Reagan after just two years of McCainobama. We are facing incredible difficulties, and to blame BUSH for the moronic performance of the GOP House and Senate---because he didn't veto what they passed?---is insane. Yes, he should have vetoed some of that junk; no, he never should have advanced Medicare or illegal immigration. But maybe it's time some of the legislators took some of the blame for not doing what they were sent to Washington to do.

I think, ultimately, Bush will wind up in the same group as James Monroe (whom I've always compared him to), Warren Harding, William Henry Harrison---not great, but certainly not horrible.

64 posted on 05/22/2008 10:12:02 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Skooz

As a history prof, I can tell you I have never been contacted in any way, or participated in any of these “rate-the-president” polls.


65 posted on 05/22/2008 10:17:33 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Just A Nobody
I currently rank Bush in the second tier, with James Monroe, James Madison, James K. Polk, Warren Harding, and Benjamin Harrison (think in the above post I said WILLIAM Harrison . . . sorry).

Since 2001, I've thought Bush most resembled James Monroe in his view of how "activist" the president should be relative to the legislature. Like Monroe, Madison, and Polk, he will go down mostly for foreign policy accomplishments.

66 posted on 05/22/2008 10:19:56 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: mtntop3
Bush will be seen by history as one of the greatest U. S. Presidents.

I agree 1000 percent. He will at least seen as the greatest President of this century

67 posted on 05/22/2008 11:31:32 AM PDT by Kaslin ( We live in the greatest country in the world. I hope you'll join me as we try to change it. Barak O)
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To: WVKayaker
I got a news flash for you. Only Congress can spend money, not the President and as far as the high gas prices go, blame the frigging democRats and enviro whakoes. Who don't let the oil companies get the oil out ANWR, of the coast of California and Florida. The don't let them get the oil out of the Bakken Basin of North Dakota and Montana, and the shale oil out of th e Rocky Mountains in Colorado.

So put the blamewhere it belongs. On the Rats and not on Presdident Bush

68 posted on 05/22/2008 11:39:31 AM PDT by Kaslin ( We live in the greatest country in the world. I hope you'll join me as we try to change it. Barak O)
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To: DrDeb
I agree 100% with this

He is a leader who will not give way to threats, criticisms and abuse, a man of valor when times are hard. In this election year, when the Constitution demands that he must give way to another President, I salute him and applaud his conduct of affairs.

69 posted on 05/22/2008 11:42:37 AM PDT by Kaslin ( We live in the greatest country in the world. I hope you'll join me as we try to change it. Barak O)
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To: WVKayaker

I suggest that you crawl back under your rock where you crawled out from


70 posted on 05/22/2008 11:53:35 AM PDT by Kaslin ( We live in the greatest country in the world. I hope you'll join me as we try to change it. Barak O)
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To: Just A Nobody
President Bush slew the giant, but missed that gnat flying around your head.
^5
71 posted on 05/22/2008 12:01:40 PM PDT by Kaslin ( We live in the greatest country in the world. I hope you'll join me as we try to change it. Barak O)
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To: Kaslin
I suggest that you crawl back under your rock where you crawled out from

My opinion is mine. Your opinion is yours. I did not tell you to crawl anywhere, I merely posted pictoral representations of my opinions.

I voted for GWB twice. I did not vote for him in primaries. I did not vote for John McCain. I wanted Fred, but the Hitlary war room made sure that Mc was the guy (IMHO).

I appreciate the Pres, for his honor to our troops, but he has presided over the biggest increase in gum't PERIOD

The president sets the agenda, and has the bully pul,pit. He also has the veto. How many times did he use it, when our childrens' legacy has been involved.

He is just a patriotic socialist, to me! It's just MY opinion. Your mileage may vary, but you might want to check those comments!

72 posted on 05/22/2008 1:45:41 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: Kaslin
Ross Douthat's article "Reedeeming Dubya" from the Atlantic might be worth a look:

The cost of the Iraq War, in lives and dollars and squandered opportunities, ought to far outweigh the possibility that a long-term American presence might push the Middle East in a direction it was headed anyway. But when things work out in the long run—and especially when we can claim the credit—Americans tend to forgive their leaders for the crimes and errors of the moment.

That’s why—to judge by the rankings that historians and pollsters regularly churn out—we’ve forgiven Teddy Roosevelt his role in the bloody and disgraceful occupation of the Philippines. It’s why we’ve pardoned Woodrow Wilson for the part his feckless idealism played in unleashing decades of strife and tyranny in Europe. It’s why we’ve granted Harry Truman absolution for the military blundering that prolonged the Korean War and brought us to the brink of nuclear conflict.

All of these presidents benefited, as Bush hopes to benefit, from the consonance between their sweeping, often hubristic goals and the gradual upward trajectory in human affairs. Despite our crimes, the Philippines turned out well enough in the long run, and so did South Korea; in the very long run, so did post–World War I Europe. (Indeed, if LBJ or Nixon had only found a way to prop up South Vietnam until the 1990s, they might have been forgiven the outrageous cost in blood and treasure, and remembered as Trumanesque heroes rather than as goats.)

But these well-respected presidents have benefited, as well, from the American tendency to overvalue activist leaders. So a bad president like Wilson is preferred, in our rankings and our hearts, to a good but undistinguished manager like Calvin Coolidge. A sometimes impressive, oft-erratic president like Truman is lionized, while the more even-keeled greatness of Dwight D. Eisenhower is persistently undervalued. John F. Kennedy is hailed for escaping the Cuban missile crisis, which his own misjudgments set in motion, while George H. W. Bush, who steered the U.S. through the fraught final moments of the Cold War with admirable caution, is caricatured as a ditherer who needed Margaret Thatcher around to keep him from going wobbly.

That paragraph on Wilson and Coolidge, Truman and Eisenhower, Kennedy and Bush Sr. may be particularly interesting for historians.

I guess Douthat's idea in a nutshell is that Bush's reputation will rise if things turn out well in the Middle East, but that would also mean a renewed acceptance of the idea of the activist, idealist, crusading, "imperial Presidency."

73 posted on 05/22/2008 3:12:42 PM PDT by x
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