[norton]

I actually like Joe Lieberman but he lost me with:

"President Clinton and his advisers slowly but surely came to recognize that American intervention, and only American intervention, could stop Slobodan Milosevic and his campaign of ethnic slaughter, Democratic attitudes about the use of military force in pursuit of our values and our security began to change. "

My values do not include bombing people who have done me no wrong simply because they want their property back.

(Or because I need to shift attention away from my own transgressions.)

[norton]

I actually like Joe Lieberman but he lost me with:

"President Clinton and his advisers slowly but surely came to recognize that American intervention, and only American intervention, could stop Slobodan Milosevic and his campaign of ethnic slaughter, Democratic attitudes about the use of military force in pursuit of our values and our security began to change. "

My values do not include bombing people who have done me no wrong simply because they want their property back.

(Or because I need to shift attention away from my own transgressions.)

[avacado]

"A great Democratic secretary of state, Dean Acheson, once warned "no people in history have ever survived, who thought they could protect their freedom by making themselves inoffensive to their enemies." This is a lesson that today's Democratic Party leaders need to relearn."

Worth repeating.

[neverdem]

BTTT!

[PatrickF4]

...proudly pro-American, a party that was unafraid to make moral judgments about the world beyond our borders.

It has become the vogue in intellectual circles, and thus to the Democratic Party Elite, that Relativism - the belief that there is no ground for moral judgment beyond our culturally conditioned reactions, should dictate our national policy. The Democratic Party is no longer about being pro-American,, as we generally understood up until the past 30 or 40 years. It's rather about changing what pro-American means. It means not being a superpower, it means that patriotism, as it is generally understood, is xenophobia and imperialism (it can work both ways, apparently).

So, to understand why progressives do not see America as a great nation, and why they will sacrifice our national interests, remember they are citizens of the World first. If they think that the World is somehow injured by American power, they will attack it. They are traitors to our national interest. They want power to tear American down, to cleanse it of the evil (that supposedly does not exist in a Relativist world view). They claim we cannot have morality, when, at the same time, they proclaim their own morality to supersede our national interest.