Posted on 05/18/2008 4:10:54 AM PDT by Merrittk
bump
that’s what it says in Blind Man’s Bluff too. OTOH, I clearly remember Jean Dixon saying at the time that she saw a vision of an “underwater missile” heading toward the Scorpion. Not that I put any stock in it—she was wrong more often than she was right. Just passing it along fwiw.
USS Scorpion (SSN-589)
Comes alongside USS Tallahatchie County (AVB-2) outside Claywall Harbor, Naples, Italy, 10 April 1968.
Whatever the reason, men of the sea go back to the sea. God bless them all. Rest in peace.
Thank you Robert Walker
Oops! Thank you John Anthony Walker Jr. Traitor extraordinaire
“Official U.S. Navy Photograph”
Ya think the Navy would release a photo the proves the Soviets sunk Scorpion? I don’t think so.
What would be photographic evidence that the Soviets sank the Scorpion? She imploded and scattered pieces all over the seabed.
These claims are a crock.
You can sell books if you claim the Soviets sank it, you don’t sell any books if you claim it was an accident.
Blind Man's Bluff sold plenty of copies, including mine.
The Soviet story was scuttlebutt for a few years in the Navy. People pointed speculatively to the foundering of a "November"-class Type I Soviet nuclear submarine in the eastern Atlantic the next year. Tit for tat, the scuttlebutt sailors said. I thought they were right for a long time, but then like most people I had very little real information about the incident. The authors of Blind Man's Bluff dug up more, and published it.
There is a book about the Scorpion. Titled “Scorpion Down”. I received it as a gift from my brother. Check Amazon/Barnes and Noble. I’m sure there is a paperback by now. I’ll sum it up. Sunk by the Soviets, denied/covered up by our military, all thanks to the above mentioned traitor.
And crumpled when she hit the ocean floor. With that kind of damage it makes determining what was the initiating event rather hard to determine. After nearly twenty years. any chemical evidence of a explosive is long gone.
The real evidence is the recordings from the hydrophones. Those are more than likely still classified.
well, at the very least, the article was a great read. The reporter is a good writer.
Arrogant bastard. Now that we finally have all the info that we can get on what he gave the Russians, I wish he would have a terrible accident in the prison shower room that will send him to hell.
Even if we had proof or reasonable doubt as to the Russians, do you think that we would ever know, officially? I don't. But would like to hear other opinions.
“I always thought the USS Scorpion sank after one of the torpedos detonated while they were disarming it ... at least that’s what they said in the museum ...”
Having worked for several years on the type of torpedos the Scorpion carried, I find that explanation almost impossible to believe.
Nearly impossible to detonate one of these by accident. A hot run in the tube is more likely, but that shouldn’t sink the boat.
This happened during the Viet Nam war on Johnsons watch also the Cold War was in full bloom. Given those facts I can see how the sinking of a submarine by the Russians would be swept under the table.
At this particular time the CIA was making a real mess of espionage and counter espionage. They were vastly overestimating Soviet military and economic strength.
Johnson was willing to forgive a great deal to avoid war with the USSR.
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