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Parents to Sue Maker of Metal Baseball Bats Over Son's Injury
Fox News ^ | May 17, 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/17/2008 10:20:12 PM PDT by MissouriConservative

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To: MissouriConservative
While they're waiting for the deep pockets to toss some money their way just to make the case go away, a website has been set up to accept donations and to announce the 3rd annual Halloween fund raiser for Steven.
21 posted on 05/17/2008 11:21:15 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: ZGuy

As a kid...we used only wooden bats. I sat there once...barely 30 feet from the batter when he swung and the bat broke. The broke end came my direction and fell around five feet from me. I sat there and thought...man, it’d be great to have steel bats that wouldn’t break. Maybe I was wrong though.


22 posted on 05/17/2008 11:23:33 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: dread78645
http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/245505

More interesting data

Studies in the American Sports Medicine Journal indicate a pitcher's ability to react to a ball hit from 60 feet, 6 1/2 inches away (the major league regulation distance) stops after 155 km/h. A 2002 report for the Journal for the American College of Sports Medicine found 37 per cent of balls hit by an aluminum bat reached 160 km/h, while just 2 per cent hit with a wooden bat did.

And Domalewski, like Green, was pitching from just 45 feet away.

Stephen Keener, president and CEO of Little League, recently told USA Today that the elimination of metal bats would lead to a "dramatic decline" in enrolment at the lower levels of the game.

"Non-wood bats spread the weight (of the ball) out across the bat," Keener said. "It's easier to handle, to swing and, for a lot of kids, to have a greater success playing the game."

Since the introduction of the metal bat in 1971, it has been remodelled many times to improve performance. The steady push to make bats more powerful prompted Jack MacKay to quit his job as a metal bat designer for Louisville Slugger in 1989.

"This is the kind of technology you ought to be throwing at bin Laden, not some baseball pitcher," MacKay told The Sporting News in 2002. "We've overengineered it. It's the worst thing I ever did. Aluminum bats and wood bats are not even in the same ballpark."

23 posted on 05/17/2008 11:23:52 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: MissouriConservative

You can beat someone up with practically any kind of baseball bat.


24 posted on 05/17/2008 11:25:24 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: buck jarret

No. You cant.


25 posted on 05/17/2008 11:32:00 PM PDT by allmost
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To: MissouriConservative
They should really be persuing a lawsuit against the estate of Abner Doubleday for inventing baseball in the first place.

even though he really had nothing to do with inventing baseball. but sueing his estate makes as much sense as what they are doing.

26 posted on 05/18/2008 12:01:45 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: MissouriConservative

This is just a sad story all around.


27 posted on 05/18/2008 1:40:44 AM PDT by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: MissouriConservative

this kid should be suing the parents for allowing the kid to play in a inherently dangerous sport...of course the kids is not of legal age - he needs to have his parents appointed guardians ad litum in the lawsuit.... therefore - the parents will be suing themselves!!!

there is case law on such incidences in NJ ....as lawyers will do anything to bring an action and have insurance companies pay the bills in a suit....

of course - the attornies all insist they are only suing for the good of the injured party...although...the ones that always benefit most are the shysters in the $1,000 suits!!!


28 posted on 05/18/2008 2:04:02 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: allmost
It was an express justification for the imposition of the new product liability law to eliminate "fault" as the condition precedent upon which relief could be granted for an injury. New Jersey Justices, in imposing products liability law, expressly stated that the idea was to spread the risk throughout the whole society by imposing it on manufacturers and those otherwise in the stream of commerce while eliminating fault. So they arranged for the demise, or at least the marginalization, of the old common law principle: "no liability without fault."

It was necessary to eliminate the concept of fault because if that century-old principle had been adhered to, the risk could not be as effectively spread. Social engineering has its price.It became necessary only to show that some "defect" in the product-not necessarily caused by negligence-led to the injury.

The justices achieved their social policy goals, they have spread the risk throughout society. So baseball bats, whether metal or wood, cost more. Insurance for little league teams costs more. Insurance for public playgrounds where these games are played costs more. Insurance for the store that sells the bats to the teams costs more. And on it goes. The problem is it goes on and on because whole new industries have been created as a result of this judicial do -goodism. Whole new careers for lawyers to prosecute and defend these cases and clerks in insurance companies to manage them. New fields for actuaries to assess the risks and provide conditions for insurance coverage. It was necessary to eliminate the concept of fault because if that century-old principle had been adhered to, the risk could not be as effectively spread. Social engineering has its price.

One more price for this state of affairs is that the lawyers representing this poor child who has no doubt been tragically injured, are doing precisely what has been envisioned for them to do: looking for the deep pockets. Those pockets are supposed to be insured.

So we see kids playing baseball becoming more expensive and regulations about how and where it's played becoming more and more onerous and absurd.


29 posted on 05/18/2008 2:07:57 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Mr Nathathan your skirt was showing.
30 posted on 05/18/2008 2:12:31 AM PDT by allmost
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To: MissouriConservative

Sadly the parents should loose custody for endangering the child.


31 posted on 05/18/2008 2:14:52 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The Huge Demonstrations by Illegals in 2006 prove they have more of the Spirit of 76 then we do)
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To: allmost
Huh?


32 posted on 05/18/2008 2:15:22 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: pepsionice
As a kid...we used only wooden bats. I sat there once...barely 30 feet from the batter when he swung and the bat broke. The broke end came my direction and fell around five feet from me. I sat there and thought...man, it’d be great to have steel bats that wouldn’t break. Maybe I was wrong though.

I don't know if you are wrong or not. Sometime in the next couple weeks MLB is having a meeting to discuss the danger of the bats they are now using (wood). They have changed the wood they use and they are breaking often. Has become a real hazard, and pretty dangerous.

33 posted on 05/18/2008 2:17:17 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: nathanbedford

You think this is the bat’s fault. Explain.


34 posted on 05/18/2008 2:20:59 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Homer1
Studies in the American Sports Medicine Journal indicate a pitcher's ability to react to a ball hit from 60 feet, 6 1/2 inches away (the major league regulation distance) stops after 155 km/h. A 2002 report for the Journal for the American College of Sports Medicine found 37 per cent of balls hit by an aluminum bat reached 160 km/h, while just 2 per cent hit with a wooden bat did.

The 2002 study was done before the “Bat Exit Speed Ratio” (BESR) rule went into effect:

Since 2003, all bats are required to meet the “Bat Exit Speed Ratio” (BESR) performance limitation, which ensures that aluminum bats do not hit the ball any harder than the best wood bats.
- Youth Committee of USA Baseball

So this kid got a line shot by an aluminum bat that was degraded to perform as bad as a wooden bat. Steven wasn't quick enough to avoid a line drive regardless of which kind of bat hit it.

It's just a guess, but something tells me Steve did a 'Roger-the-Rocket' pose and didn't get out of his follow-thru fast enough to make the switch to a fielder. That's why pitchers have gloves and cups --to be fielders.

Now, who or what will we blame when it is a wooden bat that makes the hit? Sue the ball manufacturer for selling a dangerous projectile?

Hey, I got an idea: It's that nasty ball that caused the damage --Maybe we should replace the cork and yarn inside the ball with foam rubber!

No more bloody noses and missing teeth from bad hops, no more cups for the the in-field, no gloves needed for anybody except maybe the catcher and 1st baseman ...
I mean that'll really make the game safe for the kiddos ... wouldn't it?

35 posted on 05/18/2008 2:29:07 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: allmost
You missed the entire thrust of my post.

However I suspect that the plaintiffs lawyer will look for some "defect" or will contrive an argument that there was a "failure to warn" of the greater acceleration of a ball off the metal bat or some such thing. He will find an expert who will so testify, no matter how implausibly, and the decision then goes to the jury which, being human-and we want them to be human-might very well render a verdict out of sympathy for the pathetically injured child.

Most of the posts on this thread have missed the whole point, if you want to spread the risk, there are a lot of hidden costs to pay. If you do not want to spread the risk , then horribly injured children will necessarily go uncompensated. My post is in favor of neither one. I just wish that those who comment would grapple with the real issue.


36 posted on 05/18/2008 2:31:55 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Dov in Houston
The way to end frivolous law suits is to enact a law holding the plaintiff responsible for all legal costs of the defendant should the plaintiff lose the case.
37 posted on 05/18/2008 2:54:41 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: Dov in Houston
The way to end frivolous law suits is to enact a law holding the plaintiff responsible for all legal costs of the defendant should the plaintiff lose the case.
38 posted on 05/18/2008 2:54:44 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: MissouriConservative

We need tort reform, but not limits on awards. We need to change to a loser pays system. If someone sues and loses, they pay the defendant’s legal fees including court and filing fees, and lawyers’ bill. As it is now it is often cheaper to settle a frivolous suit like this than to fight and win.


39 posted on 05/18/2008 3:01:36 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: lexusppd

didn’t see your post when I posted mine.


40 posted on 05/18/2008 3:12:33 AM PDT by SUSSA
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