Posted on 05/17/2008 7:42:43 AM PDT by zeebee
The facts will shut down the inaccuracy of one liners. LOL
But can we even refine any more oil than we are doing today? Building refineries takes time, and possibly cannot even be done without major strong-arming.
I don't see how drilling in ANWR does us any good, now. If the plans had been put into place 10 years ago, sure.
It’s high time we went back to paper grocery bags- that ought to help- dontcha know?
Yes. Want to buy a refinery? 220,000 barrels a day. Stable market.
"The United States is halting shipments to its strategic oil reserve for the second half of the year after Congress passed a bill calling for the suspension, the Energy Department said Friday.
President George W. Bush, who had resisted lawmakers’ calls for the suspension, will not veto the bill, White House spokesman Scott Stanzel told AFP.
“The president has indicated he doesn't believe halting the moderate fill of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve will have a meaningful impact on prices,” Stanzel said.
“Congress has indicated this is something they want to try and the president will not veto this legislation.”
Energy Department spokeswoman Megan Burnett told AFP that the US fills its reserve by about 70,000 barrels per day, an amount that “doesn't have an appreciable action on prices" http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iJYfGEdfpDmn2e7zKhDiXLR761-w
Oh but that right! Since 1978 the US Govt has deliberately promoted a “Conservation not consumption” Energy policy to appease the trust fund babies in the Green Lobby. SO instead of developing any sort of sane energy policy we cling to this absurd illusion that there is some magic technical fix to Oil waiting right around the corner.
THERE ISN'T ONE. The miracle fix is not going to happen. Learn to live with that reality.
And it is simply basic economics. NOTHING produces as much energy for as little cost as oil. Therefore none of the alternatives can compete economically with Oil. As long as Oil is available there is way for any alternative to be economically feasible.
But just for the sake of argument, let us suppose there you magically discover a fule to replace Oil. It still 50 years or more before it will be the dominate energy source. Why?
Simple.
1st, you have to perfect the Goil technology. Then you have to produce enough of it to make it cost effective for the average consumer. You also have to develop all the technology and infrastructure to support the new Goil tech, covert or use up all existing infrastructure only THEN will you have your brave new Goil based economy.
Oil will be the dominate energy source for the next 50 years minimum. Maybe people being born now will see the brave new Non Oil world come into being, no one else will.
So IF you want these new magic technologies, you should be advocating the world to use up OIL as fast as possible. Holding your breath and stamping your feet and blocking us from developing our own energy resources only keeps us depend on third world thugs for our energy. It does not bring Oil Liberation day even one second closer.
The Green Lobby are the best allies of OPEC. By fighting tooth and nail to prevent any sort of sane US Enrage policy, they keep us wholly deepened on OPEC oil.
Ha! I guess so.
I’m actually surprised someone hasn’t pressed the imperialism of our pushing other countries to pump more oil while we keep our land pristine—and presumably would be if anything more environmentally careful than a lot of other countries.
You are the Peak Oil nut. The fact that the oil discovered in just the last 2 years prove your notions total nonsense doesn't matter.
Bad news for you. Based on existing Oil reserves, the World will be an oil based economy for at least another 50-100 years. The day of jubilee for your Green Cons will NOT be coming in our life time
The 25 years of pain are merely begun. By 2050 the petroleum liquids will no longer dominate. The alternatives are already well-known and listed in almost every thread, but they still have to be developed and brought on line. That will take 25 years. 25 years of ever increasing PAIN.
Doesn’t matter. This is Peak Oil. This is what Peak Oil is like. The next 25 years will be pure pain.
OK, You can officially be in charge of blame. My interest, though, is in solving the problem. We have the technology and resources to make alternatives to fossil fuels affordable for average Americans in the foreseeable future but for now, we have to use our own oil and natural gas resources to end the dependence on Middle East oil. Saudi Arabia, IMO, has been a good ally of ours in the Middle East but has always felt the pressure from their neighbors and is now playing both sides of the coin. It's time to use what we have under our own feet to break the dependency on terrorist regimes that use the profits from selling us oil to “slay the infidels”.
How dumb do you have to be to not see the simplicity of this? I've said in many posts that this could be a winning strategy for John McCain in the November election. Let's not stop there, though. All those running for Congress should jump on this band-wagon and promise to vote for domestic drilling and making domestic refining of fuel something other than a criminal activity.
Yes, the problem will be resolved. Not as soon and not as cheaply as imagined. We had 30 years to take care of this and could have but didn’t and we have to do it now while there really is a problem.
Also, the only reason it would take 10 years is because of the stupid absurd regulatory system the US Govt has in place. The Congress could simply instruct the bureaucracy to fast track the process and get production flowing in a year or two. The argument about it taking 10 years is just another absurd Democrat Party lie. That has to do with the Govt regulatory process only.
The reason to pump it anywhere we can is a little thing called Supply and Demand. We have high demand for Oil world wide but we are artificially restricting supply by putting almost all our own Oil resources in the “Cannot be used” category to placate the well fund, highly active Green Lobby.
The result is High Demand + Restricted Supply = High Prices.
15 yard penalty...
you’ve exceeded your 3 strawmen limit
The concept of velocity is unknown outside the industry. All the cheerleading in the world won’t increase velocity.
diesel
soy oil
canola oil
peanut oil
waste oil
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I wish I had the sources, but I’ve heard and I believe that we could be self-sufficient for many years. Way long enough to make all the alternatives that we already have(and those still to come) affordable.
“Shamnesty amigo Uncle Ted” is off having a stroke at Mass Gen’l...
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