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Draconian gun laws may prevent your grandma from protecting herself
The Daily Sentinel ^ | May 15, 2008 | Rick Wagner

Posted on 05/16/2008 10:17:49 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
Police in Gun Searches Face Disbelief in Court the thread

One incident out of tens or hundreds of thousands isn't going to sway me.

Even a stopped watch is right twice a day.
41 posted on 05/16/2008 3:36:21 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: neverdem
NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina

Thank you. It seems to have worked.

42 posted on 05/16/2008 3:42:47 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Filo

I meant to type ‘you’, I corrected but I don’t know if you saw it.

Meant to say “Filo, just page Henry Bowman. He’ll help you out.”


43 posted on 05/16/2008 3:56:05 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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It’s not often you watch a video where a frail, 98-pound grandmother is slammed into the wall by a burly police officer, handcuffed and dragged from her home — all because she refused to surrender her firearm and leave her home.

Given Katrina, had marshall law been declared in that area at this time? If so, then with all due respect to the woman, its possible that law enforcement officials could justify their actions. Our constitutional rights are not absolute in all cases, in my opinion.

44 posted on 05/16/2008 4:12:14 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: TexasRepublic

“No pit in Hell is deep enough or hot enough for brutish thugs like that.”

She should have sent him there. It would have sent a very clear message to the wannabe commando weekend warrior thugs.


45 posted on 05/16/2008 5:04:15 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: BBell

Congratulations!


46 posted on 05/16/2008 5:52:15 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: TexasRepublic

You think reading it is bad...I saw the video and the cop slammed her against a wall unbelieveably fast at the sight of the revoler in her hand which was in the safe position no bullets, the barrel open in her fingers...by the way the cops were imported cops...I beleive the one who slammed her was from CA you can read thier shoulder tabs.

She said I am in a non flodded area and i have all the food i need i don’t want to evacuate and I have my defense, she showed her gun and that’s when they guy slugged her.

I will never forget it. The guns of the people were never returned.


47 posted on 05/16/2008 11:00:30 PM PDT by fishhound (Boycott the Olympics in China.)
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“Before you can shrug and say if the old woman wants to die, then let her, be aware that her surviving relatives can then sue like rabid wolverines for letting the “poor, helpless old lady die like an animal” in a flood.”


If they can sue you for that, then they can sue you for forcibly taking her from her home when she was no threat to anyone and there was no war on.

Please show me where “Mandatory Evacuations”, except for military emergency, have ever had the sanction of the law under our Constitution.


48 posted on 05/17/2008 6:09:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/537336_2

Not all law is found in the Constitution. Almost all laws are derivative from the Constitution. Granted, a lot are not, and instead are based in non-legal extrapolations, which means they should be repealed.

Until they are, by amendment, referendum at the State level, new law, judicial decision, or statutory neglect, they are legal.


49 posted on 05/17/2008 6:35:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: marktwain

My apologies. I got the link from Google, which allows you in, but when directly linked, it defaults to a sign-in.

Here is the Google link. It is the first linked page.

http://tinyurl.com/4bh7q7


50 posted on 05/17/2008 6:38:03 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Thanks for the link. In simple terms, forced evacuation is a direct result of the nanny state concept, right up there with helmet laws and mandatory seat belt laws.

All based on the conceit that the state knows better than you what is good for you.

Hopefully, we will eventually put that concept to rest, but I have my doubts, when 50+ percent of the population *want* to be treated like little children.

51 posted on 05/17/2008 8:16:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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I would like to note that there is a far worse fate than mandatory evacuation, something also mentioned on the link. It is mandatory quarantine, being forced to stay, even when you would be willing to leave everything else behind.

It is also a far worse fate that may be at issue, and soon, because of the avian flu pandemic threat.

There is no more authoritarian government agency than the public health service, in *any* country, when push comes to shove. And in the case of avian flu, even the government of North Korea is humble and obliging to its public health authority—while at the same time ignoring other epidemics in their cities.

The public health can, as needed, disallow all human rights. And if the situation warrants, they can even ask the US president for nuclear release. They can imprison, for life if necessary, without charge. They can prohibit free speech. They can involuntarily inject you with experimental drugs, or otherwise medicate or even perform surgery on you as they see fit.

They can order the destruction of aircraft in flight, ships at sea, and going back to the original point, they can turn your home into a prison, including giving police or soldiers the authority to shoot you on sight if you attempt to leave.

Whatever is necessary.


52 posted on 05/17/2008 11:25:32 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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