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Battle Creek police shoot bear who strays far from home
ap ^ | 5-16-08

Posted on 05/16/2008 6:56:38 AM PDT by Darren McCarty

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To: grellis

Bears? In Howell?? No way, lived there for years, not a bear anywhere in Livingston county, or any county that borders it.

You have to go up pretty far north in the lower state to get to bear territory, and there are plenty of them in the UP of course.

I remember Ted Neugent getting bent out of shape about limiting the use of dogs in a bear hunt, but it was so long ago I forgot the specifics of his rants.


21 posted on 05/16/2008 12:28:54 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: grellis

Yeah, that sounds about right. Dogs (plural) are used in bear hunting, because, y’know, bears can outrun humans, and turn a hunter into little bitty croutons in no time. The idea is for the dogs to get the bear to rear up, so the hunter can get a body shot. Killing a bear with a head shot isn’t a safe bet, or so I’ve always been told; hard, angular skull, good for ricocheting a bullet.


22 posted on 05/16/2008 2:14:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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In my Youth, we used dogs to tree the bear, Vermont, NH. Bears are very quick and refuse to stand still and get shot, I did get a couple in a meeting engagement, accidental on both our parts.


23 posted on 05/16/2008 2:23:48 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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Interesting, thanks LB. Once treed, body shot?


24 posted on 05/16/2008 3:17:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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It was a who wanted to eat it shot, generally a body shot. Bear meat is a treat to those who like strange tastes. Take three pounds of Bear Meat, five pounds of onions, and two pounds of garlic, a pound of butter and some flour to make a gravy.


25 posted on 05/16/2008 3:45:06 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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Wow, I like the onion/garlic to meat ratio! :’D


26 posted on 05/16/2008 3:59:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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If you have ever eaten bear raised on skunk cabbage and the city dump you will understand the ratio.
27 posted on 05/16/2008 4:08:10 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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That does make sense. :’)


28 posted on 05/16/2008 4:24:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: grellis

Howell? Howell, New Jersey maybe. I’m out by Ann Arbor and have family in Howell. I’ve never seen a bear around there at all. Deer are another story. I have heard of Cougars near Cohoctah, but not bears. The closest I’ve heard of a “nearby” bear is that town center in Lansing a few years back.


29 posted on 05/16/2008 6:20:36 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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The closest I’ve heard of a “nearby” bear is that town center in Lansing a few years back.

I remember that well. There were at least a half dozen sightings within five miles of each other throughout Delta Township (west/northwest Lansing). Probably all the same bear.

30 posted on 05/17/2008 2:54:35 PM PDT by grellis (By order of the Ingham County Sheriff this tag has been seized for nonpayment of taxes)
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To: Darren McCarty

Can someone explain why they shot an immature black bear? The bear looked like a young adult that wandered into a city while trying to establish a range.

It isn’t a grizzly tearing up people’s livestock.

If they know it is in the area, call the DNR, trap and relocate the animal.


31 posted on 05/17/2008 3:00:17 PM PDT by MediaMole
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I have mixed views on this. I'm a hunter, although not a bear hunter. I believe in sound management practices, and this here was not all that popular on the hunting boards.

The first thing I want to know is how much of a threat it is. It is in an urban area of a mid-size city. That bear could charge at any time as it was scared. It could break into a house for food, which is increasingly common out in New Jersey. Black Bears are dangerous. So are bucks in rutting season.

However, there was no reports of those things happening. Unless the bear is an imminate threat, I think they should have have called the DNR, and release the bear up near Baldwin where there are less people and more land to roam.

32 posted on 05/17/2008 3:11:11 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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There are occasional black bear sightings in the urban area where I live.

Generally, the cops cordon off the area, get out their rifles in case of trouble and call the DNR. The DNR comes, tranquilizes the animal, tags it and moves it. If it returns to the city, they will put it down.

They are almost always dealing with young bears looking for new territory.

If the bear was a threat to people or was injured, I have no problem putting it down.


33 posted on 05/17/2008 4:26:13 PM PDT by MediaMole
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