Posted on 05/10/2008 7:17:57 AM PDT by MizSterious
I think the guys are think of TheDon’s Playboy picture; most of the women keep thinking of decrepit old lechers being the only “man of their dreams” these young girls will ever know.
Real Americans care and have cared. In an era when petitions were unheard of (perhaps other than the abolition movement), Americans signed a 28-roll, 7 million signature petition & delivered it to Congress in 1898. What was the issue? Utah had delivered a polygamist to Congress, and Americans wanted him turned back.
Why is polygamy illegal??
It erodes and militates against monogamy, as does cohabitation, same-sex marriage, group marriage (5 men/5 women, for example), polyandry (you see nothing wrong with a woman who has 20 husbands?), etc.
From “FLDS 101” - A new blog containing information about the basic teachings and history of the FLDS Church.
“The Good Memories”
Life for the FLDS hasn’t always been the way it has been in recent years under Warren Jeffs’ rule. Prior to Warren Jeffs’ reign, things were much different. Before Warren Jeffs banned community events, dances, sports, church meetings, and other activities, the people interacted with each other in kind and neighborly ways.
Holidays were a favorite time in the small rural towns of Hildale/Colorado City (Short Creek) nestled below redrock cliffs. Rulon Jeffs establish a three-day Harvest Fest celebration that was attracted members from as far away as Canada. One person recalled fondly, “How fun was it to go on the hay rides at the Harvest Fest? My friends and I went mostly for the rides and to google over the Canada boys that came down.”
A July 24th celebration was also a grand event. This was “Pioneer Day,” a holiday in Utah to commemorate the arrival of the first pioneers in 1847. “I remember Uncle Fred [Jessop] riding a black stallion at the head of the 24th of July Parade every year. The stallion would be all decked out with tassels and silver, and everyone would cheer. Someone would usually throw candy from one of the floats, and the children would go wild after it.”
“I lived in Salt Lake and I always looked forward to going down south for October Fest, April conference, 4th and 24th of July and any other reason I could find to go down there. I loved to go down to the basketball court and I would play basketball from morning until dark. I would only quit long enough to grab something to eat. Everyone down there was so friendly and I miss those good ole days a lot.”
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TOPICS:
FLDS Life 101 – The Good Memories
FLDS Beliefs 101 – Casting out evil
FLDS Beliefs 101 – The Family
FLDS Beliefs 101 - One Man Rule
FLDS Beliefs 101 – “Keep Sweet”
FLDS Beliefs 101 - Apostates
FLDS Beliefs 101 - Arranged Marriages
FLDS Beliefs 101 - Gentiles or “outsiders”
http://flds101.blogspot.com/2008/05/flds-beliefs-101-gentiles-or-outsiders.html
Actually, it’s probably unwise to have smaller numbers of men father more of the children in a society, from a genetic perspective. I raise and show dogs. We have issues in all breeds, partly (and maybe mainly) because of problems associated with the size of the gene pools. One issue is called the popular sire syndrome, ie a few males are deemed really great, and so they are used more often as studs. Remember that ALL organisms have some bad genes. In nature, rarely does one individual swamp the gene pool with his genes, however, when one does, in a few generations, those bad genes become more prevalent in the offspring.
Of course, a few groups of polygamists won’t have an impact on the gene pool of the whole country, however, if polygamy becomes legal and large numbers of people decide to live like that, I think you would run into the same problems we have in dogs.
susie
Feel free to repost it as an excerpt and link.
Ug, sorry about that! (I have no idea what the story was, so it will have to just stay gone.)
I know I”m wasting my words on here but I”ll try again. Polygamy by itself when practiced by consenting adults does not equal child abuse, welfare fraud, or rape. There is a difference people.. I find the way many sheeple on here just listen to what the media feeds them very similar to liberals... why don’t you go out there and educate yourselves if you want to comment on something?
There are already laws against abuse, rape, and fraud.. prosecute those.. doesn’t mean that everyone who believes that adults can truly love more than one person wants children raped etc.... just because you don’t get it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid.. leave the government out of marriage. Why is it acceptable to have multiple mistresses and affairs but not ok for a man to do the right thing and marry 2 women that he loves? as long as they are all consenting adults, what business is it of anyone’s? There are plenty of people who believe this way who are not FLDS.
“Attorney general Mark Shurtleff is said to be open to discussion of turning polygamy from a felony crime into a misdemeanor. This could mean that a man convicted of polygamy may spend a year or less in jail instead of several years in prison.”
Maybe they need to elect a non-Mormon Attorney General.
Seems to me nobody is focusing on the “Bleed the Beast” mentality of these idiots. Sure they are screwing little girls and beating and sometimes killing the babies, but what about welfare fraud?
That should be very high on the list if indeed they are getting away with that.
So a guy fathers—let’s say 35, since we have an example of that—35 kids, with, oh, let’s say 21 wives. Can we talk about quality time with wives OR kids? How much of it can be allotted to each of the 56 people in that guy’s family? How much actual guidance can we expect those kids to receive? How much love and affection can those wives expect—or is it all just for sex? I can hear it now: Sorry, Betsy, no time for cuddling, Marge and Alice are waiting for their turns.
And then, how much joy among the wives, knowing that competition in this “marriage” is everything. One of the wives who left the fLDS told of how that very competition led to child abuse: if they couldn’t slap one of their sisters, they’d take it out on that sister’s kids.
Polygamy is just plain SICK. And that’s my opinion, and I’m entitled to it. If it ever does come up for a vote, I will campaign against it, not to mention vote NO.
Another view!
This is how homosexuals went from criminal behavior to state sanctioned marriage and a church sacrament in many churches.
After polygamy will come the decriminalization of pedophilia.
"In January, 1903, the Utah Legislature chose Mormon Apostle Reed Smoot to be the State's new Senator. The result was a nation wide protest, mainly organized through Protestant churches, against his seating in the U.S. Senate. The main accusations were that Mormons continued to practice polygamy cladestinely, despite the 1890 Manifesto, and that the Mormon Church continued to dominate political and business affairs in Utah and the Intermountain West.
Smoot's election to the Senate was seen as part of a Mormon conspiracy to pollute the national councils with their theocratic influence. Eventually a massive petition was presented to the U.S. Senate, which began what became a multi-year investigation into Mormon and Utah affairs. In the end Smoot retained his seat, and the investigative committee produced four massive volumes of hearing transcripts, which are one of our richest sources on Mormonism at the turn of the century. The transcripts in their entirety are available below in PDF format. These files are text searchable using Adobe Acrobat. Enjoy!"
The logical progession of your post would be this: "Why is it acceptable to have multiple mistresses and affairs but not ok for a man to do the right thing and marry ANOTHER MAN that he loves?
I like mine better! It’s a mug shot!
LOL! “Prince Charmin”
(Spelling is intentional.)
Sharia law comes to America in many ways.
Is it really Polygamy? they legally marry only one woman in the eyes of the law. The rest are “Spiritual Wives” without legal standing. Is that polygamy? The thing wasn’t so bad when they were “marrying” girls 18 and over, its “Profit” Warren Pervert who changed things so his guys could marry girls right out of puberty. By criminalizing it they went underground. 1. Get Warren to change things or 2. have them elect a new prophet with a brain in his head and not his pants. Let the cult be more open—let them run restaurants or make cheese or something where they can interact with the world. They could even attract female members to join up—so they wouldn’t need to grow their own future wives but get new foolish people to don the funny dresses and make babies. There are some women who might like the life style.
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