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There's a better solution to our energy problems than ethanol. It's called nuclear energy.
The Weekly Standard ^ | 04/28/2008 | William Tucker

Posted on 05/04/2008 4:53:59 PM PDT by Delacon

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A nuclear energy based economy is inevitable. It may take the death of the last lib who saw China Syndrome but it will happen.
1 posted on 05/04/2008 4:54:00 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: CygnusXI; Beowulf

Ethanol ping.


2 posted on 05/04/2008 4:57:48 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Delacon
Coal.

Cheaper, ready, abundant. By all means, do nukes too. But the silliness blocking the most economical fuel there is, is all unjustified luddite nonsense, to the bottom.

3 posted on 05/04/2008 4:58:41 PM PDT by JasonC
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and drilling in our own oil fields,

and building more refineries

and telling the envir-O-NAZIs to go pound sand.

4 posted on 05/04/2008 5:01:48 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs to said?)
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To: JasonC

“Coal. Cheaper, ready, abundant. By all means, do nukes too. But the silliness blocking the most economical fuel there is, is all unjustified luddite nonsense, to the bottom.”

From the article: When an atom splits in two—which happens occasionally in nature and can be induced in a nuclear reactor—some binding energy is liberated. This energy release is two million times greater than any “chemical” releases that come in, say, an internal combustion engine or a coal-fired electrical generating plant. This 2-million differential explains why a 1,000-megawatt coal plant must be fed by a 110-car train loaded with 16,000 tons of coal arriving every day. Meanwhile a nuclear reactor of the same size is fed by a single flatbed truck that arrives with a new set of fuel rods once every 18 months. The energy stored in the nucleus of the atom is almost incomprehensibly larger than the energy stored in fossil fuels or the kinetic activity of wind, wave, or water.


5 posted on 05/04/2008 5:03:46 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; ...

I don’t expect y’all to agree with me on this.


6 posted on 05/04/2008 5:04:56 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon

Bravo!
Bump !


7 posted on 05/04/2008 5:05:57 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: SandRat

I have no problem with that at all.


8 posted on 05/04/2008 5:06:14 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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But the trainload of coal is cheaper than the reactor, by miles. It isn't the fuel cost, it is the whole equippage.

We have enough to last about 500 years. Seriously.

9 posted on 05/04/2008 5:07:05 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Delacon

liberal morons, missing the “rational thought” gene, believe the only energy we need will come from mister sun and mister wind. anything else is bad bad bad


10 posted on 05/04/2008 5:09:27 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Delacon

The only reason anyone wouldn’t say coal first and foremost is they are unconsciously swayed by Al Gore’s global warming hoax. The USA is the Saudi Arabia of coal.


11 posted on 05/04/2008 5:12:33 PM PDT by devere
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Well, I don’t have the stats but if we were talking actual costs of delivering say 1 million kilowats of electricity to a community by nuclear power versus coal power plants, I think they are pretty even. Someone correct me it I am wrong. Keep in mind that either one is charging exactly what the market will bear right now. A good indicator would be which one is turning a higher profit over all.


12 posted on 05/04/2008 5:13:22 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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As a result, we suddenly find ourselves taking food out of the mouths of children in developing nations. That may sound harsh, but it also happens to be true.

What?

If WE grow OUR corn, and burn it in a stove, feed it to the birds, or throw it away, what does this have to do with starving The Children™ in a "Developing Nation"? Does this mean the "Developing Nation" cannot grow its own food? If so, why do we call it "Developing" if it is nonviable?

-Unless the Writer is referring to handout recipients in corrupt regimes, who despise us. Is that what the writer meant?

13 posted on 05/04/2008 5:13:24 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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We have enough to last about 500 years. Seriously.

We have enough uranium to last thousands of years if we go with a breeder system like the French Super-Phenix and fuel re-processing.

14 posted on 05/04/2008 5:15:14 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Delacon

I do know that we have a good stock of uranium as well. I don’t know if anyone has done a “coal running out” before “native fissionable material” study.


15 posted on 05/04/2008 5:17:42 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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Biofuels were another promotion from the feel good radical 60s crowd and their offspring. No critical thinking is necessary when glib bromides will do. Judge Liberal by intention and not the result, resultant destruction.
16 posted on 05/04/2008 5:23:52 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: Gorzaloon

There is that, and there is the fact that we export almost half of our grain crop as it is.

I notice the article referenced Global Warming, that sort of skewed the rest of it for me, especially the part about increasing capacity by planting more crops, growing more would be a good thing....

Why not build nuclear power plants to facilitate producing ethanol the way Dams were built to facilitate the Aluminum Industry?


17 posted on 05/04/2008 5:24:44 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: Delacon

Algore


18 posted on 05/04/2008 5:25:47 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: JasonC

‘But the trainload of coal is cheaper than the reactor, by miles. It isn’t the fuel cost, it is the whole equippage.”

Only because of the roadblocks put up in front of nuclear energy. In the early 70s nuke plants cost a fraction of what they did 10 years later.


19 posted on 05/04/2008 5:25:50 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Gorzaloon

Well said. Let the market decide what energy sources we use, not politicians. As for the folks in other countries who don’t like the price of food going up, three words. Grow. Your. Own. Or, maybe talk to OPEC and get them to lower their prices. In the long run, we’ve got the leverage that matters. We will adapt to new sources of energy and new methods of getting it. The oil ticks in the gulf get to go back to their camels.


20 posted on 05/04/2008 5:27:51 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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