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Calgary woman becoming priest
Calgary Herald ^ | May 4, 2008 | Graeme Morton

Posted on 05/04/2008 1:47:36 PM PDT by NYer

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To: fanfan

He did give Jesus to a woman to raise. He also had many women followers, and many women served the early Church.

He didn’t call any to be apostles, though, did He? Not a one. And that’s from Scripture, without even factoring in Church Tradition.

It isn’t about God loving men more. Men and women simply aren’t called to the same types of service.


21 posted on 05/04/2008 3:36:12 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: fanfan
This sounds more like the Stone Masons club,

Not true! They made Steve Guttenberg a star!

22 posted on 05/04/2008 3:37:01 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: RosieCotton

How do we know that?

The History, after all, is His-story.


23 posted on 05/04/2008 3:37:50 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: buccaneer81
This sounds more like the Stone Masons club,

Not true! They made Steve Guttenberg a star!

That was a mistake!

24 posted on 05/04/2008 3:41:10 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

So...you’re saying you don’t believe the Gospels just because they were written down by men?

If you don’t believe there’s any objectivity even there, it makes it a little hard to do any explaining. :-\ There has to be some common accepted ground.


25 posted on 05/04/2008 3:41:43 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: fanfan

LOL!!


26 posted on 05/04/2008 3:48:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: fanfan

I appreciate your response. They may be analogous in terms of who can serve in leadership roles, but I don’t think one sees the same treatment of women in Christianity (Catholicism in particular), that one sees with the way Muslims treat women. True women can’t be Mullahs/Imams/Ayatollahs, but that doesn’t result in their poor treatment under Sharia. Rather the whole of Sharia results in their poor treatment.


27 posted on 05/04/2008 3:54:14 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: RosieCotton
No, it's nothing to do with men. Men are people too.

I see us all as humans, made in GOD's image, by GOD. He wants the best for all of us, but it's up to us to do the right thing.
I don't need organized religion, with all it's bureaucracy, and, politics, to know that.

The 'words' of Jesus were written down as much as what, 40, 50 ,100 years after HIS death? And yet his teachings shone through.
(That, is a miracle, if you ask me. Ever play broken telephone?)

But yes, I believe that people have betrayed his church.

28 posted on 05/04/2008 3:58:42 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: NYer

There will not be women priests, and this woman is a good reason why there should not be any.


29 posted on 05/04/2008 3:59:15 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat
I appreciate your response. They may be analogous in terms of who can serve in leadership roles, but I don’t think one sees the same treatment of women in Christianity (Catholicism in particular), that one sees with the way Muslims treat women. True women can’t be Mullahs/Imams/Ayatollahs, but that doesn’t result in their poor treatment under Sharia. Rather the whole of Sharia results in their poor treatment.

I agree that women are treated better under Christianity, (Jeez, did I just type that?) but why is this being discussed at all?

If a Female Catholic Priest helps bring another soul to GOD, how is that wrong?

The GOD I believe in would be pleased with his humble servant, and joyous about the soul that was rescued.

30 posted on 05/04/2008 4:05:59 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: NYer

“Monica Kilburn Smith of Calgary will be welcomed into the small worldwide community of female Roman Catholic priests.”

There is no such thing. This is an oxymoron.

There is a woman pretending to be a priest and getting co-conspirators to engage in the farce through a phony and unrecognized ordination.


31 posted on 05/04/2008 4:16:52 PM PDT by WOSG (Gameplan: Obama beats Hillary, McCain beats Obama, conservatives beat RINOs)
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To: fanfan

And you are forced to become Catholic??? Did I miss that part. By the way the Orthodox also do not ordain women as priests and many Protestant churches do not allow women to serve as Pastors.


32 posted on 05/04/2008 4:26:00 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: fanfan

“If a Female Catholic Priest helps bring another soul to GOD, how is that wrong?”

Since you posit a faulty premise (a female Catholic priest) your question is moot.


33 posted on 05/04/2008 4:30:10 PM PDT by Ravens70
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To: lastchance

No, I won’t allow myself to be “forced” to become anything, and I wasn’t accusing anyone of trying to convert me.

To answer the question you posed, yes, the “Churches” do all kinds of things that I don’t understand.

That is why I am asking questions on this thread.

If you would like to be helpful, please explain the enigma I brought up in post #30


34 posted on 05/04/2008 4:38:21 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan
I pinged you to the following thread which explains why women can never be priests.

The Male Priesthood: The Argument From Sacred Tradition

35 posted on 05/04/2008 4:49:24 PM PDT by NYer (Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God. - St. Athanasius)
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To: Ravens70
“If a Female Catholic Priest helps bring another soul to GOD, how is that wrong?”

Since you posit a faulty premise (a female Catholic priest) your question is moot.

Ok.

A woman brings another human soul to GOD, but don't you dare call her a Priest.

This is important to GOD, WHY?

36 posted on 05/04/2008 4:50:45 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: NYer

Thanks NYer.

I’ll look at it in the morning.

Thanks for letting me ask questions on your thread.

Have a great night.


37 posted on 05/04/2008 4:58:18 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

ping for later


38 posted on 05/04/2008 5:01:10 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: fanfan

You do deserve a more respectful and kinder answer than I first gave. I hope you will forgive my snippyness. I well return later when I have more time to explain in more detail and with more charity.


39 posted on 05/04/2008 5:08:52 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: RosieCotton

This is simply NOT journalism. The author should be fired. The piece is activist tripe, wholly unresearched, and offered as an article.


40 posted on 05/04/2008 5:09:51 PM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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