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A Perfect Storm of Stupidity (Food vs. Fuel)
telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com ^ | May 2nd, 2008 | Lisa Keenan

Posted on 05/03/2008 5:23:49 AM PDT by kellynla

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Lisa Keenan of Saint John is a lawyer and the former president of the New Brunswick Progressive Conservative Party. Her column appears on Friday.
1 posted on 05/03/2008 5:23:49 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: thackney

ping


2 posted on 05/03/2008 5:24:09 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Biofuels: No Blood For Oil!
(But starvation is ok.)


3 posted on 05/03/2008 5:26:54 AM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: kellynla

Ending the corn ethanol nonsense seems to generate consensus across the political spectrum. But don’t expect action anytime soon. Too many well-connected political interests spent years pushing this boondoggle, and they won’t let it go without a big fight.


4 posted on 05/03/2008 5:30:51 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

I just e-mailed my Rep. last night to lead or support stopping the Ethanol mandate.


5 posted on 05/03/2008 5:43:20 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Please Support Vetsforfreedom.org)
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To: kellynla

A Perfect Storm of Stupidity ~ al bore & the lib/dems!!!!


6 posted on 05/03/2008 5:43:54 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: nyyankeefan
A Perfect Storm of Stupidity ~ al bore & the lib/dems!!!!

Don't give Bush and the GOP Congresscritters a pass on this one. An agenda this stupid usually requires bipartisanship.

7 posted on 05/03/2008 5:44:56 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kellynla
With food shortages emerging in many parts of the developing world, it's time to ask which we put more value on, human life or an extra car in the garage?

This is a non starter, baby. The second sentence was even worse. Can't imagine why it takes so much text to repeat the talking points.

8 posted on 05/03/2008 5:48:14 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the lesser of two evils is still evil.)
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To: dirtboy

Agree. Many Republicans pushed this silly agenda too.


9 posted on 05/03/2008 5:52:41 AM PDT by tips up
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To: kellynla

True enough, as far as it goes.

If the US had spent the same effort on drilling known reserves and recovering tar sands as we have ethanol, we would be much better off. The article fails to broach this subject.

And on another front, the article mentions fuel from cooking oil (biodiesel) as if it were part of the problem. This is a relatively small movement and not using food stock to make fuel. Leave that out of this.


10 posted on 05/03/2008 6:03:11 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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To: dirtboy

That sounds very much like the entire man made global warming scam.


11 posted on 05/03/2008 6:11:55 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Dutch Boy

Time and again it is proven that free markets are the most efficient must of the time most humane means for making economic decisions. In fortunately, free markets have to compete with class baiting politicians and pseudo intellectuals.


12 posted on 05/03/2008 6:19:29 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Red Dog #1
The US is the Saudi Arabia of coal. If we were to have any kind of government assistance (and that is a big honkin' IF), it should be for coal-to-fuel. And only in the form similar to the tax breaks for companies to open new factories.

But that doesn't do anything to win the farm belt vote, does it?

13 posted on 05/03/2008 6:36:19 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kellynla

IDIOCY.....burning FOOD for Fuel!!! God will get us for this.


14 posted on 05/03/2008 7:08:36 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: dirtboy

I bet it never dawns on 80% of the country that a lot of our problems come from politicians actually carrying out their constituent’s flawed desires. It always feels much better to blame congress than ourselves.


15 posted on 05/03/2008 8:09:39 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
My Energy Manifesto:

* Cease all ethanol production. It requires more energy to make than it yields and the unintended consequence is higher food costs. Corn production shifted from feed-corn to subsidized corn for ethanol. Just say "no" to ethanol!

* Immediately create only ONE "blend" of gasoline and cease regional blends which are stupid, costly, and meaningless. Even if this is the "cleanest" blend, just make it ONE and be done with it. Trucking custom blends around the country is wasteful.

* Drill for oil in Alaska, Gulf of Mexico, and other sites in the CONUS as a matter of national security.

* Construct state-of-the-art refineries and/or retrofit current and dormant ones and crank up production.

* Make all “carbon credit” scams unlawful.

* Construct SEVERAL, regional Pebble-Bed Reactors (or other similar designs) that are not considered "breeders", are rechargeable, and cleaner than any current nuclear generator design.

* Use the residual heat from the reactor above to process motor fuel from coal and/or shale. Even though Clinton "stole" some of the best coal reserves, we still have a lot to use.

* Have Iraq pay for its freedom, and maybe even pay us back for their freedom. We'll still need their oil.

* Bust up the cartels or at least be independent enough to make the cartels inconsequential.

* Convince local taxing bodies to lift or fix the sales tax on gasoline so that as gas prices go up, the local tax collectors don’t see a windfall revenue jump at the expense of the consumer.

16 posted on 05/03/2008 8:11:33 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: kellynla

Just a comment that this folktale is not worth further comment.


17 posted on 05/03/2008 8:12:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: dirtboy

Converting coal to oil is profitable when oil prices are higher than $40/barrel. (That’s the break-even point for the process.)

With oil at $120/barrel, we still aren’t seeing much in the way of coal-to-oil.

That begs the question... Why? With today’s prices, it would be VERY profitable.


18 posted on 05/03/2008 9:15:05 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
That begs the question... Why? With today’s prices, it would be VERY profitable.

I would venture that all the money being thrown by the government at corn-based ethanol is a barrier to entry for private capital into coal-to-diesel. It's one thing to compete against the market. It's another to compete against an industry favored by Washington.

19 posted on 05/03/2008 9:52:28 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Spelled A-r-c-h-e-r D-a-n-i-e-l-s M-i-d-l-a-n-d


20 posted on 05/03/2008 5:35:04 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Redefeat Communism by defeating Hitlary and B Hussein Obama in 2008)
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