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Pennebaker: Clip Doctored
politico.com ^ | 5/2/08 | politico.com

Posted on 05/02/2008 9:45:07 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32

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1 posted on 05/02/2008 9:45:07 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Interesting. Link to original here. Go to 4:40. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U


2 posted on 05/02/2008 9:55:03 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

What did you expect Pennebaker to say?


3 posted on 05/02/2008 9:58:18 AM PDT by moose2004
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I don’t buy it at all.


4 posted on 05/02/2008 10:00:00 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Perot is a such a dbag.


5 posted on 05/02/2008 10:00:32 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

He says “Those people are shi**ing!” and “How would you like to be in the White House....”, imo.

He’s not even talking about Hoosiers, but about the folks running the White House.

I initially believe the edited clip, but it’s now obvious to me that Kantor did not say either of the things the edited clip is trying to make you believe.


6 posted on 05/02/2008 10:02:12 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: The KG9 Kid
It's definitely worth looking into. I don't think we want to run away with this story only to later realize that we were mistaken all along.

There is no question that he says sh**, but I can't exactly tell if he says sh** or sh**ing. It did seem as though he was referring to the voters or poll numbers (I THINK that's what they were looking at) as being worth sh**.

As for the N-word part...I'm at work, so I couldn't exactly put the volume all the way up and try to listen carefully. It was a bit hard to make out since I'm not exactly a lip reader.

As always, I will wait for a more resourceful Freeper to sort this out. =)

7 posted on 05/02/2008 10:03:18 AM PDT by cdbull23 (What's going on in my brain? Check it out: cainsbrain.blogspot.com)
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To: NinoFan

The shorter version has been doctored. You can’t make out what he whispered afterwords, but the part about there being a pause,then “in the whitehouse” seems to be true.

I was kind of shocked that someone would ever say what he is accused of saying on camera, I don’t care who was filming it.

For people like him being careful not to say anything on camera is second nature.


8 posted on 05/02/2008 10:05:31 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: ltc8k6

Looks like an internet dirty trick. Apologies to Kantor.


9 posted on 05/02/2008 10:09:24 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Ain't got no money, but I got guns, religion, and xenophobia)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Nope. Won’t work. I have carefully viewed the subtitled clip and the longer, unmodified clip. They both show Kantor saying the exact same thing: It doesn’t matter whether Clinton wins Indiana because “those people are sh*t”. His point is that if IN is even close, then the election overall is in the bag for Clinton. That is, they don’t need people like the conservative white people of Indiana (who he hates) in order for Bill Clinton to win. At this point Kantor realizes they have won the election. He is delighted. He directs the cameraman to point the camera away from him and then chortlingly drops the bomb: “How would you like to be a white ni**er at this point?” George Stephanopoulos understands the question exactly and agrees with Kantor, shaking his head “no”. He, too, would not want to be one of those evil honky losers right now because they and their whole world are soon to be royally reamed by President Clinton.


10 posted on 05/02/2008 10:16:50 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: popdonnelly
Looks like an internet dirty trick. Apologies to Kantor.

I don't think so at all. See above for why.

11 posted on 05/02/2008 10:17:53 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: ltc8k6
I initially believe the edited clip, but it’s now obvious to me that Kantor did not say either of the things the edited clip is trying to make you believe.

I disagree entirely. See above.

12 posted on 05/02/2008 10:19:02 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Marking for later.


13 posted on 05/02/2008 10:19:10 AM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: Abathar
The shorter version has been doctored.

The sound has been turned up, but the n-bomb and its contect are actually more clear on the original.

14 posted on 05/02/2008 10:20:38 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Sorry, “context”.


15 posted on 05/02/2008 10:21:30 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

I disagree entirely. What Kantor says is very clear to me.

One thing is for sure, there is reasonable doubt.

Where I come from, doubt about a charge sets a man free, even if I don’t like him.


16 posted on 05/02/2008 10:49:55 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

BUMP!
Let’s see where this goes.


17 posted on 05/02/2008 10:52:26 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEuNIUb3Ges

Title changed and claims removed, video re-posted.

I think that closes this case. The video’s creator has bailed.

Kantor didn’t say what the video creator claimed.


18 posted on 05/02/2008 10:58:19 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

He does not say, “Those people are s******* in the WH.” He clearly says, “Those people (Indianans) are shitty.” This alone is enough for me, BTW. The words match his lips. Also the other, “White N*****” part, voice sounds exactly the same, and doesn’t sound doctored.


19 posted on 05/02/2008 11:22:56 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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I do not understand your post and I stand by my analysis.

I think Kantor referred to the people of Indiana as “shi*” and then, referring more generally to conservative whites
faced with Clinton’s apparent victory, asked “How would
you like to be a white ni**er at this point?”

Clip here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

The statements in question start at about 4:40.


20 posted on 05/02/2008 11:28:00 AM PDT by rogue yam
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