Posted on 05/01/2008 3:09:53 PM PDT by sitetest
Derbyshire is a bigot and shallow-thinker who admitted that he is commenting on a movie he refused to see.
“Again, breeding”
Breeding IS TRAIT SELECTION, ie, DARWINISM in action!
How can you compare a movie by Ben Stein to anything by Michael Moore or Al Gore?
Rather than blame Darwinism or Christianity for Hitler, why don’t we blame Hitler for Hitler?
Hitler and the Nazis were totally marinated in the "survival of the fittest" ideology. Those who suggest otherwise are not paying attention to history.
Obviously, Darwinism does not necessarily lead to Nazism,
---but it does make Nazism possible.
“Rather than blame Darwinism or Christianity for Hitler, why don’t we blame Hitler for Hitler?”
Because the leftist Pigs like Foxman keep blaming CHIRSTIANITY for Hitler, but, when conservatives point out that Hitler was inspired by their pet theory of Darwin, the howl.
God, this guy is so frikin stupid that he puts mutually exclusive statements in adjacent paragraphs....
I humbly submit that if you cannot tell the difference between the meanings of the words 'connection' and 'equate' in the above context, it is indeed you who are 'frickin' stupid'.
Really? Then do so, to wit: after Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote a second book ("Zweites Buch") , in which he went into considerable detail about his affection for Darwinian evolution concepts:
On the second page, both of the German and English versions, Hitler stated:
"In the limitation of this living space lies the compulsion for the struggle for survival, and the struggle for survival, in turn, contains the precondition for evolution."
A page later Hitler stated:
"This development (Entwicklung) is characterized by the never-ending battle (Kampf) of humans against animals and also against humans themselves."
A better translation of this would be:
"This evolution is characterized by an eternal struggle of humans against animals and against humans themselves."
Wikipedia's discussion of the evolutionary principles Hitler embraced are particularly noticeable when Hitler discusses the U.S., wiki summarizes as follows:
In Mein Kampf, Hitler rarely mentioned the United States and when he did, it was in a tone of deep contempt. In Mein Kampf, Hitler portrayed the United States as a “racially degenerate” society on its way to self-oblivion. By contrast, in Zweites Buch, Hitler portrayed the U.S. as a dynamic, “racially successful” society that practiced eugenics and segregation and followed what Hitler considered to be a wise policy of excluding “racially degenerate” immigration from eastern and southern Europe. What promoted the change in Hitler's views between 1924 and 1928 is not known. By 1928, Hitler seems to have heard about the massive industrial wealth of the U.S., the Immigration Act of 1924, segregation and the fact that several American states had eugenics boards to sterilize people who were considered mentally defective, and was favorably impressed. Hitler proclaimed his admiration for these sorts of policies and expressed his wish that Germany would do similar things, though on a much greater scale.Of all Germany’s potential enemies, Hitler ranked the United States as the greatest and most dangerous. By contrast, Hitler saw the United Kingdom as a fellow “Aryan” power that in exchange for Germany's renunciation of naval and colonial ambitions would ally itself with Germany. France in Hitler’s opinion, was rapidly “Negroizing” itself. In regard to the Soviet Union, Hitler dismissed the Russian people as being Slavic Untermensch (sub-humans) incapable of intelligent thought. Hitler consequently believed that the Russian people were ruled over by what he regarded as a gang of bloodthirsty but inept Jewish revolutionaries. By contrast, the majority of Americans were in Hitler’s view “Aryans”, albeit Aryans ruled by what Hitler saw as a Jewish plutocracy. In Hitler’s point of view, it was this combination of “Aryan” might coupled with competent “Jewish rule” which was what made the U.S. so dangerous.
——That Clinton thinks he can use Christian theology to his advantage——
So you don’t think that Hitler misused Christian theology for his advantage?
That’s Herbert Spencer.
Yes, the author spoke colloquially.
It would have been more precise if he'd have said,
“Most important, the latter make no claims to answering ultimate questions, like how HUMAN life originated”
or even better,
“Most important, the latter make no claims to answering ultimate questions, like FROM WHERE HUMAN life originated”
Too bad you're unable to address his actual arguments.
sitetest
Sounds like a case of having eyes and ears and being blind and deaf. N’est pas?
Worse, it was compiled by a proven sociopath, who was anti-Christian and was published after Hitler's death.
“’Expelled doesn't equate Darwinism and Hitler... Expelled only spends about 10 minutes on the Hitler-Darwin connection.’
“God, this guy is so frikin stupid that he puts mutually exclusive statements in adjacent paragraphs....”
They're not mutually exclusive.
It's a different thing to say that one thing is equal to another ("equates") and to say that there is a connection between one thing and the other.
I thought you were a smart guy?
sitetest
“Naziism…was expressly opposed to modern concepts of ‘Jewish science’.”
Nazism, it seems, would have viewed Darwinism as “Anglo-Saxon science,” and therefore valid.
Breeding has something to do with biology and genetics doesn’t it? Was it Christ who taught that nature selects those biological traits which are fittest to survive, or was that someone else?
Hitler was into the occult not Christianity.
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